As I haven't been able to compile the modules for my wireless adapter, I
will try to use Ndiswrapper. I am trying to install the
ndiswrapper-utilities, but it depends on ndiswrapper-modules-1.1. Now, there
are 5 ndiswrapper-modules packages which contain ndiswrapper-modules-1.1.
But these in turn depend on ndiswrapper-utils. How do I get out of this
loop?

Teilhard

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"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> As I haven't been able to compile the modules for my wireless adapter, I
> will try to use Ndiswrapper. I am trying to install the
> ndiswrapper-utilities, but it depends on ndiswrapper-modules-1.1. Now,
> there are 5 ndiswrapper-modules packages which contain
> ndiswrapper-modules-1.1. But these in turn depend on ndiswrapper-utils.
> How do I get out of this loop?

Errata: read in the second paragraph: "I am trying to install the
ndiswrapper-utils ..."

Teilhard.

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Teilhard Knight wrote:

> As I haven't been able to compile the modules for my wireless adapter, I
> will try to use Ndiswrapper. I am trying to install the
> ndiswrapper-utilities, but it depends on ndiswrapper-modules-1.1. Now,
> there are 5 ndiswrapper-modules packages which contain
> ndiswrapper-modules-1.1. But these in turn depend on ndiswrapper-utils.
> How do I get out of this loop?
>
> Teilhard

apt-get install package1 package2

It might be necessary to make-kpkg the ndiswrapper module for your kernel.

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"Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@spam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Teilhard Knight wrote:
> 
>
> apt-get install package1 package2
>
> It might be necessary to make-kpkg the ndiswrapper module for your kernel.

Thanks a lot. After setting my sources.list, I made what you suggested:
"apt-get install package1 package2", and I got: "ndiswrapper-modules ......
couldn't be found". I then downloaded ndiswrapper-modules ... and
ndiswrapper-utils, and made: "dpkg -i package1 package2" and I was able to
install.

I do not know the command "make-kpkg". What does it do and when one has to
use it?

Thanks again.

Teilhard.

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Teilhard Knight wrote:

> "Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@spam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:42f77ed8$0$18649$14726298@news.sunsite.dk... 
>
> Thanks a lot. After setting my sources.list, I made what you suggested:
> "apt-get install package1 package2", and I got: "ndiswrapper-modules
> ...... couldn't be found". I then downloaded ndiswrapper-modules ... and
> ndiswrapper-utils, and made: "dpkg -i package1 package2" and I was able to
> install.
>
> I do not know the command "make-kpkg". What does it do and when one has to
> use it?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Teilhard.

Certain modules have to be consistent with the version of the kernel you are
running (like ndiswrapper, openafs, etc.). Though pre-compiled modules are
often available, users can run into problems if there are some linking
issues that arise due to slight symbol table mismatches between the kernel
they are running and the kernel these modules are compiled against.

So, the best practice is to use make-kpkg (instead of source compiling the
kernel through the usual make xconfig, make bzImage modules modules_install
route). That creates a .deb package customized for your kernel. make-kpkg
also provides a modules_image target which can be used to create .deb
packages for the module-source packages.

For instance, for ndiswrapper, you could concievable install the
module-source package. This would leave a .tar.gz file under /usr/src. When
unpacked, it would expand into a subdirectory of /usr/src/modules, where
make-kpkg expects to find all the modules (when used with the modules_image
target). So in one shot, you get a customized kernel deb package as well as
the appropriately customized module deb package(s), with full assurance
that there would be no symbol conflicts.

Its then just a matter of firing a few dpkg -i commands and you are in
business.

There are howtos available on this subject. Google is your friend.

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"Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@spam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Teilhard Knight wrote:
> 
>
> Certain modules have to be consistent with the version of the kernel you
> are
> running (like ndiswrapper, openafs, etc.). Though pre-compiled modules are
> often available, users can run into problems if there are some linking
> issues that arise due to slight symbol table mismatches between the kernel
> they are running and the kernel these modules are compiled against.
>
> So, the best practice is to use make-kpkg (instead of source compiling the
> kernel through the usual make xconfig, make bzImage modules
> modules_install
> route). That creates a .deb package customized for your kernel. make-kpkg
> also provides a modules_image target which can be used to create .deb
> packages for the module-source packages.
>
> For instance, for ndiswrapper, you could concievable install the
> module-source package. This would leave a .tar.gz file under /usr/src.
> When
> unpacked, it would expand into a subdirectory of /usr/src/modules, where
> make-kpkg expects to find all the modules (when used with the
> modules_image
> target). So in one shot, you get a customized kernel deb package as well
> as
> the appropriately customized module deb package(s), with full assurance
> that there would be no symbol conflicts.
>
> Its then just a matter of firing a few dpkg -i commands and you are in
> business.
>
> There are howtos available on this subject. Google is your friend.

Thanks for the info. You made me think that I should try to compile the
modules for my wireless adapter in a different way than the one one finds in
the README file. This file instructs to run "make" and then "make install".
Well, when I run "make" I get so many errors that I was feeling hopeless to
compile that package, which compiled perfectly in Mandrake. So, perhaps it
is a matter of compiling it "the Debian way" Do you think I should do a
"make kpkg" instead? And then install, as you say, with "dpkg -i ...."?

Teilhard.

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Teilhard Knight wrote:

> "Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@spam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:42fa2483$0$18648$14726298@news.sunsite.dk... 
>
> Thanks for the info. You made me think that I should try to compile the
> modules for my wireless adapter in a different way than the one one finds
> in the README file. This file instructs to run "make" and then "make
> install". Well, when I run "make" I get so many errors that I was feeling
> hopeless to compile that package, which compiled perfectly in Mandrake.
> So, perhaps it is a matter of compiling it "the Debian way" Do you think I
> should do a "make kpkg" instead? And then install, as you say, with "dpkg
> -i ...."?
>
> Teilhard.

No. If make fails, then please reproduce the errors that you get. make-kpkg
internally calls make, and will fail too unless the cause for those errors
is fixed.

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> Teilhard Knight wrote:
> 
>
> No. If make fails, then please reproduce the errors that you get.
> make-kpkg
> internally calls make, and will fail too unless the cause for those errors
> is fixed.

Well, thanks. It was just a hopeful idea.

By the way, you say Google is my friend, but all the instances I have found
about how to compile the Ndiswrapper package, just instruct to do "make" and
"make install". And, yes, I have looked for the Debian distro specifically.
Do you, by any chance have a reference where I can take advance of what you
have taught me?

Teilhard.

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Teilhard Knight wrote:

 
>
> Well, thanks. It was just a hopeful idea.
>
> By the way, you say Google is my friend, but all the instances I have
> found about how to compile the Ndiswrapper package, just instruct to do
> "make" and "make install". And, yes, I have looked for the Debian distro
> specifically. Do you, by any chance have a reference where I can take
> advance of what you have taught me?
>
> Teilhard.
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

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"Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@spam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Teilhard Knight wrote:
>
> 
> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

Thanks a lot. It pays to be multilingual, huh?

What you sent me is a detailed way of how to compile and install a kernel.
Now, that is not what I want to do, I want to install ndiswrapper. For that
I need the kernel source matching my kernel. I am in the stage of compiling
ndiswrapper, but I get the error: "Can't find kernel sources in
/usr/src/linux. /usr/src/linux, points, of course, to
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8. Am I misunderstanding  How to compile, the
package kernel-source-2.6.8 is lacking of something of what is going on?
Sorry I am a newbie, and many thanks for all your help.

Teilhard.

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