Hi all,

We intend in the next release to move to jdk 5.0 without backward
compatability with JDK 1.4.  This was a hard decision to make but some
features in jdk 5.0 are required for us to make ApacheDS LDAPv3 compatable.

Namely we are going to be using jdk 5.0 features for SASL support.

We have drawn up a roadmap to reach a 1.0 release for ApacheDS by March
of 2006.  By that time we suspect the jdk 5.0 to be the standard JDK in
production.  Here's the roadmap btw:

http://docs.safehaus.org/pages/view...ion?pageId=2394

We will move this roadmap into the ASF JIRA as soon as we distill fine
grained tasks from it.  Please excuse the storm of JIRA issue movements
that will follow.

All those that want to use ApacheDS with 1.4 should use releases 0.9.2
and below.  0.9.3 is debatable but 0.9.4 will definately use 5.0
features and hence will be 1.4 incompatable.

Thanks,
Alex

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Alex Karasulu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We intend in the next release to move to jdk 5.0 without backward
> compatability with JDK 1.4.  This was a hard decision to make but some
> features in jdk 5.0 are required for us to make ApacheDS LDAPv3 compatable
.
>
> Namely we are going to be using jdk 5.0 features for SASL support.
> We have drawn up a roadmap to reach a 1.0 release for ApacheDS by March
> of 2006.  By that time we suspect the jdk 5.0 to be the standard JDK in
> production.  Here's the roadmap btw:
>
> http://docs.safehaus.org/pages/view...ion?pageId=2394

I've been looking forward to this for a while now.  1.5 has been out for
over a year and given how much more time we need to complete the
roadmap, let alone any sort of enterprise adoption, it makes perfect
sense to take advantage of many of the features in 1.5.  In addition to
SASL, we already require 1.5 for SSL in MINA and I, for one, would like
to use some of the new concurrent collections and crypto.

Enrique

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+1 for the server. Please consider differently for other consumable
libraries (eg -naming probably should remain 1.3/1.4, I'm not sure
about things like MINA).

Before jumping in, I know this was discussed maybe 6 months ago -
someone might like to dig in the archives and see if there were any
cases against it that still hold.

- Brett

On 9/23/05, Alex Karasulu <aok123-Bdlq13kUjeyLZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We intend in the next release to move to jdk 5.0 without backward
> compatability with JDK 1.4.  This was a hard decision to make but some
> features in jdk 5.0 are required for us to make ApacheDS LDAPv3 compatabl=
e.
>
> Namely we are going to be using jdk 5.0 features for SASL support.
>
> We have drawn up a roadmap to reach a 1.0 release for ApacheDS by March
> of 2006.  By that time we suspect the jdk 5.0 to be the standard JDK in
> production.  Here's the roadmap btw:
>
> http://docs.safehaus.org/pages/view...n?pageId=3D2394
>
> We will move this roadmap into the ASF JIRA as soon as we distill fine
> grained tasks from it.  Please excuse the storm of JIRA issue movements
> that will follow.
>
> All those that want to use ApacheDS with 1.4 should use releases 0.9.2
> and below.  0.9.3 is debatable but 0.9.4 will definately use 5.0
> features and hence will be 1.4 incompatable.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>

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Hi Alex,

I remember this being discussed earlier on and can definitely see how
useful the move to 1.5 will be.

Thanks for the roadmap - it looks really good.

Cheers,
Nick


Alex Karasulu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We intend in the next release to move to jdk 5.0 without backward
> compatability with JDK 1.4.  This was a hard decision to make but some
> features in jdk 5.0 are required for us to make ApacheDS LDAPv3 compatable
.
>
> Namely we are going to be using jdk 5.0 features for SASL support.
> We have drawn up a roadmap to reach a 1.0 release for ApacheDS by March
> of 2006.  By that time we suspect the jdk 5.0 to be the standard JDK in
> production.  Here's the roadmap btw:
>
> http://docs.safehaus.org/pages/view...ion?pageId=2394
>
> We will move this roadmap into the ASF JIRA as soon as we distill fine
> grained tasks from it.  Please excuse the storm of JIRA issue movements
> that will follow.
>
> All those that want to use ApacheDS with 1.4 should use releases 0.9.2
> and below.  0.9.3 is debatable but 0.9.4 will definately use 5.0
> features and hence will be 1.4 incompatable.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>


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I agree with what Brett says here. 

Trustin

2005/9/23, Brett Porter <brett.porter-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
>
> +1 for the server. Please consider differently for other consumable
> libraries (eg -naming probably should remain 1.3/1.4, I'm not sure
> about things like MINA).
>
> Before jumping in, I know this was discussed maybe 6 months ago -
> someone might like to dig in the archives and see if there were any
> cases against it that still hold.
>
> - Brett
>
> On 9/23/05, Alex Karasulu <aok123-Bdlq13kUjeyLZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org>
 wrote: 
> compatable. 
>



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Trustin Lee wrote:

> I agree with what Brett says here.  
>
> Trustin
>
> 2005/9/23, Brett Porter <brett.porter-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.
org
> <mailto:brett.porter-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>>:
>
>     +1 for the server. Please consider differently for other consumable
>     libraries (eg -naming probably should remain 1.3/1.4, I'm not sure
>     about things like MINA).
>
Oh yes to be more exact this is for ApacheDS and not other libraries
like naming of course.

Alex

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+1 for JDK 5.0, for the server only as Brett suggested.

On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 00:20 -0400, Alex Karasulu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We intend in the next release to move to jdk 5.0 without backward
> compatability with JDK 1.4.  This was a hard decision to make but some
> features in jdk 5.0 are required for us to make ApacheDS LDAPv3 compatable
.
>
> Namely we are going to be using jdk 5.0 features for SASL support.
>
> We have drawn up a roadmap to reach a 1.0 release for ApacheDS by March
> of 2006.  By that time we suspect the jdk 5.0 to be the standard JDK in
> production.  Here's the roadmap btw:
>
> http://docs.safehaus.org/pages/view...ion?pageId=2394
>
> We will move this roadmap into the ASF JIRA as soon as we distill fine
> grained tasks from it.  Please excuse the storm of JIRA issue movements
> that will follow.
>
> All those that want to use ApacheDS with 1.4 should use releases 0.9.2
> and below.  0.9.3 is debatable but 0.9.4 will definately use 5.0
> features and hence will be 1.4 incompatable.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
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Perhaps you don't know retroweeaver. In resume : Compile on JDK1.5, Run
on JDK1.4.

http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/

Perhaps that could help you to deploy 1.5 code on 1.4 JVM

Julien

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I believe that is for JDK 5.0 language features - however the guys are
looking for JDK runtime features that are not available in jdk 1.4's
rt.jar.

- Brett

On 9/23/05, Julien Vermillard <jvermillard-hxtJVsqPMRdGWvitb5QawA@public.gmane.org> wrote:[v
bcol=seagreen]
> Perhaps you don't know retroweeaver. In resume : Compile on JDK1.5, Run
> on JDK1.4.
>
> http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/
>
> Perhaps that could help you to deploy 1.5 code on 1.4 JVM
>
> Julien
>
>[/vbcol]

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I've been on JDK 1.5 for a couple of months now and the generics support
alone is worth it (but thats backwards compatible). Besides, I would think
that as a stand alone server the JRE wouldn't be an issue as it's pretty
common practic to distribute a JRE with Java server applications.

Marc


On 9/23/05, Brett Porter <brett.porter-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:[vbcol
=seagreen]
>
> I believe that is for JDK 5.0 language features - however the guys are
> looking for JDK runtime features that are not available in jdk 1.4's
> rt.jar.
>
> - Brett
>
> On 9/23/05, Julien Vermillard <jvermillard-hxtJVsqPMRdGWvitb5QawA@public.g
mane.org> wrote: 
>[/vbcol]

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