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Once I entered the DNS servers, I could send mail, but I'm
still getting this message from the nym I sent the message to:

Received: from cpe-MY-IP-ADDRESS-73.xxx.xxx.rr.com (HELO mydomain.org) (xx.x
xx.xxx.73)
by riot.eu.org with SMTP; 24 Sep 2005 21:56:40 -0000

That's right - My own ISP's SMTP server is sending the messages.

Analogy:  You've got TOR running, but the address that is
seen by the web site from your browser is your own IP.  Kind of
like you aren't even using TOR but connecting directly.

Of course, the analogy would be fixed by simply configuring the
proxy settings of your browser.  I could fix that problem.

This problem is totally foreign to me.

 ****************************************
**************
Receiving is a different, but fundamentally similar, problem.

I get this error message when I send from my nym to the
remailer address at my domain, myremailer@mydomain.org:

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at riot.eu.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<myremailer@mydomain.org>:
34.345.34.345 [the address of my domain?] does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 553 sorry, relaying denied from your location [213.254
.16.33] (#5.7.1)
Giving up on 34.345.34.345.

 ****************************************
**********************

So it *looks* like I'm sending using my domain, but I'm not,
and I can't receive anything either.

How the heck is my domain supposed to know to send the mail on
to me?  And how is my computer supposed to know NOT to send
mail through my usual SMTP server?

What next?

Persona
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, [Anon] Persona wrote:
>
>Once I entered the DNS servers, I could send mail, but I'm
>still getting this message from the nym I sent the message to:
>
>Received: from cpe-MY-IP-ADDRESS-73.xxx.xxx.rr.com (HELO mydomain.org) (xx.
xxx.xxx.73)
>  by riot.eu.org with SMTP; 24 Sep 2005 21:56:40 -0000
>
>That's right - My own ISP's SMTP server is sending the messages.
>

You are using MercuryE (end-to-end client)?
The above shows *your* Mercury connecting to riot.eu.org
Your ISP's SMTP server is not sending the messages.


>Analogy:  You've got TOR running, but the address that is
>seen by the web site from your browser is your own IP.  Kind of
>like you aren't even using TOR but connecting directly.
>
>This problem is totally foreign to me.
>

You do connect directly.
You can not hide your remailer.
Remailers can not be anonymous.

>So it *looks* like I'm sending using my domain, but I'm not,
>

Yes you are sending mail out of your machine.

>And how is my computer supposed to know NOT to send
>mail through my usual SMTP server?
>

MercuryE = send direct to the MX of the addressee domain
MercuryC = relay to the MX of the addressee domain via some other SMTP
server such as your ISP

This Received header shows that you send direct to riot:
Received: from cpe-MY-IP-ADDRESS-73.xxx.xxx.rr.com (HELO mydomain.org) (xx.x
xx.xxx.73)
by riot.eu.org with SMTP; 24 Sep 2005 21:56:40 -0000


>Receiving is a different, but fundamentally similar, problem.
>
>I get this error message when I send from my nym to the
>remailer address at my domain, myremailer@mydomain.org:
>
>Hi. This is the qmail-send program at riot.eu.org.
>I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses
.
>This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
><myremailer@mydomain.org>:
>34.345.34.345 [the address of my domain?] does not like recipient.
>Remote host said: 553 sorry, relaying denied from your location [213.25
4.16.33]
>(#5.7.1)
>Giving up on 34.345.34.345.
>

>How the heck is my domain supposed to know to send the mail on
>to me?
>What next?
>

You set up the MX record for *your* domain to point at *your* IP address.

Ciao!

BiKiKii


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In <20050925022317.82B313FE48D@firenze.linux.it>, nobody@firenze.linux.it
wrote:
>This is a Type III anonymous message, sent to you by the Winston Smith
>Project mixminion server at firenze.linux.it. If you do not want to
>receive anonymous messages, please contact antani-
>admin@firenze.linux.it. For more information about anonymity, see
>https://remailer.firenze.linux.it or
>https://e-privacy.firenze.linux.it.
>
>-----BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----
>Message-type: plaintext
>
>Once I entered the DNS servers, I could send mail, but I'm
>still getting this message from the nym I sent the message to:
>
>Received: from cpe-MY-IP-ADDRESS-73.xxx.xxx.rr.com (HELO mydomain.org)
>(xx.xxx.xxx.73)
>  by riot.eu.org with SMTP; 24 Sep 2005 21:56:40 -0000
>
>That's right - My own ISP's SMTP server is sending the messages.
>
>Analogy:  You've got TOR running, but the address that is
>seen by the web site from your browser is your own IP.  Kind of
>like you aren't even using TOR but connecting directly.
>
>Of course, the analogy would be fixed by simply configuring the
>proxy settings of your browser.  I could fix that problem.
>
>This problem is totally foreign to me.
>
> ****************************************
**************
>Receiving is a different, but fundamentally similar, problem.
>
>I get this error message when I send from my nym to the
>remailer address at my domain, myremailer@mydomain.org:
>
>Hi. This is the qmail-send program at riot.eu.org.
>I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses
.
>This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
><myremailer@mydomain.org>:
>34.345.34.345 [the address of my domain?] does not like recipient.
>Remote host said: 553 sorry, relaying denied from your location
>[213.254.16.33] (#5.7.1)
>Giving up on 34.345.34.345.
>
> ****************************************
**********************
>
>So it *looks* like I'm sending using my domain, but I'm not,
>and I can't receive anything either.
>
>How the heck is my domain supposed to know to send the mail on
>to me?  And how is my computer supposed to know NOT to send
>mail through my usual SMTP server?
>
>What next?
>
>Persona
>-----END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----


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