I am a novice, testing how to do backups and restores under WXP PRO.
I am trying GHOST as a test vehicle.  I must be missing something.

I made a backup 'image' which seemed to work fine.  I restored a
second HD from that 'GHOST' image, which also seemed to work okay.
The content looks fine.

However, when I then made the second HD  the boot drive (c drive) by
itself, the boot-up says the HD is not 'bootable'.  Can I make the new
HD bootable?  How?

The file system is NTFS.

Thanks

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"superman" <Gotham@City.com> wrote in message
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>I am a novice, testing how to do backups and restores under WXP PRO.
> I am trying GHOST as a test vehicle.  I must be missing something.
>
> I made a backup 'image' which seemed to work fine.  I restored a
> second HD from that 'GHOST' image, which also seemed to work okay.
> The content looks fine.
>
> However, when I then made the second HD  the boot drive (c drive) by
> itself, the boot-up says the HD is not 'bootable'.  Can I make the new
> HD bootable?  How?
>
> The file system is NTFS.
>
> Thanks


superman:
Would you be interested in the methodology involved in creating *direct*
disk-to-disk clones using Ghost 2003? I assume from your post that you're
making a disk image on some sort of removable media and then attempting to
restore the image to a HD. I rarely, if ever, use that technique, rather
preferring to create *direct* disk-to-disk clones.

You didn't indicate what version of Ghost you're using. I work with Ghost
2003 using a bootable Ghost floppy disk (or bootable CD). The bootable
floppy is easily created in the Ghost program and can be used to create a
bootable CD using one of the CD-burning programs should you prefer to use
the bootable CD instead of a bootable floppy disk. I find the simplicity &
effectiveness of this technique re using Ghost  is more to my liking than
using the Windows GUI. I haven't been particularly thrilled with the Ghost 9
version which superseded the 2003 version and haven't yet worked with the
Ghost 10 version that was recently released.

If you purchased the retail boxed version of Ghost 9 (you did not state what
version you're using - you should always do so when seeking help) it came
with Ghost 2003.

So if you're interested in learning how to use Ghost 2003 to *directly*
clone the contents of one HD to another HD, please so indicate and we'll try
to help you.
Anna

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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:13:56 -0400, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>
>superman:
>Would you be interested in the methodology involved in creating *direct*
>disk-to-disk clones using Ghost 2003? I assume from your post that you're
>making a disk image on some sort of removable media and then attempting to
>restore the image to a HD. I rarely, if ever, use that technique, rather
>preferring to create *direct* disk-to-disk clones.
>
>You didn't indicate what version of Ghost you're using. I work with Ghost
>2003 using a bootable Ghost floppy disk (or bootable CD). The bootable
>floppy is easily created in the Ghost program and can be used to create a
>bootable CD using one of the CD-burning programs should you prefer to use
>the bootable CD instead of a bootable floppy disk. I find the simplicity &
>effectiveness of this technique re using Ghost  is more to my liking than
>using the Windows GUI. I haven't been particularly thrilled with the Ghost 
9
>version which superseded the 2003 version and haven't yet worked with the
>Ghost 10 version that was recently released.
>
>If you purchased the retail boxed version of Ghost 9 (you did not state wha
t
>version you're using - you should always do so when seeking help) it came
>with Ghost 2003.
>
>So if you're interested in learning how to use Ghost 2003 to *directly*
>clone the contents of one HD to another HD, please so indicate and we'll tr
y
>to help you.
>Anna
>


2003

I put the image, small though it is - since I am just testing, on a
second, smaller HD.

I chose image over clone because the target drive is smaller than the
source drive.

Thanks

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superman wrote...

>I put the image, small though it is - since I am just testing, on a
>second, smaller HD.
>
>I chose image over clone because the target drive is smaller than the
>source drive.

Since you are testing, it won't hurt for you to try the following.

1. google the web for a utility which can backup/restore the MBR
(Master Boot Record) of a HDD.
2. backup the MBR from HDD1 to a file
3. restore the MBR from step 2 to HDD2

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> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:13:56 -0400, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote: 



"superman" <Gotham@City.com> wrote in message
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> I put the image, small though it is - since I am just testing, on a
> second, smaller HD.
>
> I chose image over clone because the target drive is smaller than the
> source drive.
>
> Thanks


superman:
First of all, if your destination drive is smaller than your source drive,
that does *not* necessarily mean that you cannot *directly* clone the
contents of the source drive to the destination one. The crucial element is
the amount of data to be copied (cloned). For example, if your 80 GB source
drive contains 30 GB of data, there's no problem *directly* cloning the
contents of that 80 GB drive to a 40 GB destination drive. I trust you
understand that.
Anna

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superman <Gotham@City.com> wrote:
>I am a novice, testing how to do backups and restores under WXP PRO.
>I am trying GHOST as a test vehicle.  I must be missing something.
>
>I made a backup 'image' which seemed to work fine.  I restored a
>second HD from that 'GHOST' image, which also seemed to work okay.
>The content looks fine.
>
>However, when I then made the second HD  the boot drive (c drive) by
>itself, the boot-up says the HD is not 'bootable'.  Can I make the new
>HD bootable?  How?
>
>The file system is NTFS.
>
>Thanks

Assuming you have your new second HD in a PC as master (or cable
select) and all other HD's removed, then I think what you need to do
is to insert your Windows XP Home/Pro cd and boot from the cd.

Select repair master boot record.  Check the Microsoft website for
repair-install details.  Basically, after booting the cd, it analyzes
the hard drives and partitions and makes the primary partition
bootable.

Be careful that you ONLY have your new hard drive connected.  You
don't want to accidentally have a disaster!

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"Anna" wrote:
> superman:
> First of all, if your destination drive is smaller than your source drive,
> that does *not* necessarily mean that you cannot *directly* clone the
> contents of the source drive to the destination one. The crucial element i
s
> the amount of data to be copied (cloned). For example, if your 80 GB sourc
e
> drive contains 30 GB of data, there's no problem *directly* cloning the
> contents of that 80 GB drive to a 40 GB destination drive. I trust you
> understand that.
> Anna


Does Ghost indeed know how much data there is in the partition
before it decides if the destination partition is large enough, or
does it just compare partition sizes?

*TimDaniels*

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> "Anna" wrote: 



"Timothy Daniels" <TDaniels@NoSpamDot.com> wrote in message
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>    Does Ghost indeed know how much data there is in the partition
>    before it decides if the destination partition is large enough, or
>    does it just compare partition sizes?
>
> *TimDaniels*

Tim:
I'm not certain of the precise methodology Ghost 2003 employs in this
situation. All I know is that before Ghost will allow the cloning process to
begin it determines that the destination partition contains sufficient disk
space to receive the data contents being cloned from the source disk. So it
would seem apparent that it has computed the amount of data on the source
disk at an early point of the cloning process.
Anna

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Try with the option Immage ALL, this will also copy your boot sector.

Make sure your partition is set to active (gdisk)

There are some issues with ghost 7.5 and xp but that is for a dual boot.

Regards

Rogier

"superman" <Gotham@City.com> schreef in bericht
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> I am a novice, testing how to do backups and restores under WXP PRO.
> I am trying GHOST as a test vehicle.  I must be missing something.
>
> I made a backup 'image' which seemed to work fine.  I restored a
> second HD from that 'GHOST' image, which also seemed to work okay.
> The content looks fine.
>
> However, when I then made the second HD  the boot drive (c drive) by
> itself, the boot-up says the HD is not 'bootable'.  Can I make the new
> HD bootable?  How?
>
> The file system is NTFS.
>
> Thanks

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Try the old fashion dos trick.

Use ghost with the image all settings.

This way you can clone a harddrive or a partition.

You do NOT need any other tools, unless you do not have gdisk

I you try to make a dual boot environment watch out be sure that you reboot
the xp install from the
right acitive partition.


Roger
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> "Timothy Daniels" <TDaniels@NoSpamDot.com> wrote in message
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>
> Tim:
> I'm not certain of the precise methodology Ghost 2003 employs in this
> situation. All I know is that before Ghost will allow the cloning process
to
> begin it determines that the destination partition contains sufficient
disk
> space to receive the data contents being cloned from the source disk. So
it
> would seem apparent that it has computed the amount of data on the source
> disk at an early point of the cloning process.
> Anna
>
>

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