Has anyone been successful in using any flavor of AIT tape drive under USB,
mapped through IDE?  I know Sony makes an IDE version of the drive, and it's
common these days to find cases that will map IDE/EIDE hard drives into USB
2.0.    I assume those same casese could map an AIT IDE drive to the USB 2.0
bus, but I have no idea if the Sony tape drivers would work well under
Windows 2000/XP when using the tape drive through the USB 2.0 interface.

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Will

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Do you mean the USB-to-IDE adapter boxes? If yes - they usually support
only a limited subset of SCSI, so I have doubts that the tape will work. You
can try though.

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"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone been successful in using any flavor of AIT tape drive under USB
,
> mapped through IDE?  I know Sony makes an IDE version of the drive, and it
's
> common these days to find cases that will map IDE/EIDE hard drives into US
B
> 2.0.    I assume those same casese could map an AIT IDE drive to the USB 2
.0
> bus, but I have no idea if the Sony tape drivers would work well under
> Windows 2000/XP when using the tape drive through the USB 2.0 interface.
>
> --
> Will
>
>

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What would SCSI have to do with this if the tape device has a native IDE
interface?

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Will


"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
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>     Do you mean the USB-to-IDE adapter boxes? If yes - they usually
support
> only a limited subset of SCSI, so I have doubts that the tape will work.
You
> can try though.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com

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Any IDE tape drive is not IDE, it is ATAPI, which means - SCSI commands
over the IDE cable.

Same is true for CD/DVD drives.

Same is true for USB storage, with the additional limitation of the USB
storage spec supporting a limited set of SCSI commands.

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StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

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> What would SCSI have to do with this if the tape device has a native IDE
> interface?
>
> --
> Will
>
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:dl3tb3$19om$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru... 
> support 
> You 
>
>

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Maxim S. Shatskih <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote

> Any IDE tape drive is not IDE, it is ATAPI, which
> means - SCSI commands over the IDE cable.

Wrong, as always.

> Same is true for CD/DVD drives.

Wrong, as always.

> Same is true for USB storage, with the additional limitation of
> the USB storage spec supporting a limited set of SCSI commands.

Wrong, as always.

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> "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
> news:z8idnWr3N76IHejeRVn-pg@giganews.com... 

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> > Any IDE tape drive is not IDE, it is ATAPI, which 
>
> Wrong, as always.

Trolling? Go read the specs on www.t13.org

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Maxim S. Shatskih <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote
 
[vbcol=seagreen] 
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Trolling?

Pig ignorant wanking in your case.

> Go read the specs on www.t13.org

Been there, done that, long ago now.

Doesnt say that.

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Utterly clueless, as always.

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3tlq68Ftg6pqU1@individual.net[vbcol=
seagreen]
> Maxim S. Shatskih <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote
> 
>
> Wrong, as always.
> 
>
> Wrong, as always.
> 
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
> 

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"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message news:dl4s5u$1nr5$1@gavrilo.mtu
.ru 
>

> Trolling?

Corse it is. What did you do to him to earn it's attention.

> Go read the specs on www.t13.org

Pointless. Never showed any signs that it can read specs.

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"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message news:Ls6dnY9eOs9h6-jenZ2dnUVZ_tSd
nZ2d@giganews.com
> Has anyone been successful in using any flavor of AIT tape drive under USB
,
> mapped through IDE?  I know Sony makes an IDE version of the drive, and it
's
> common these days to find cases that will map IDE/EIDE hard drives into USB 2.0.[/
vbcol]

1394 to AT Attachment - Tailgate,
specifies the protocol for passing ATA
and ATAPI commands over the 1394 bus.

I would expect the USB to IDE  protocol to have a similar extension.
Unfortunately T13 does't seem to have been involved with that too.

USB + tailgate get's this in Google though:

http://www.cooldrives.com/dubayusb205o.html
"USB-MS-2BW is ideally suited for tailgate interface -applications for
removable-media drives CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM,
tape drive, and hard disk drive.
It allows IDE drives (Master and Slave) to be connected to USB 2.0 serial
bus in a plug-and-play fashion. Both ATA and ATAPI devices are supported
using the same firmware.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I assume those same cases could map an AIT IDE drive to the USB 2.0
> bus, but I have no idea if the Sony tape drivers would work well under
> Windows 2000/XP when using the tape drive through the USB 2.0 interface.

You would have to ask Sony whether the extension driver has an API interface
 to USB too.

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