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11-27-05 12:45 PM
Hi David,
Please don't take this the wrong may but why are you having such a hard time
finding a developer? I remember you posting on my forum and I also remember
a direct email request.
I personally tend to get suspicious when I see these types of postings in
which people post jobs without any info about themselves, the company, the
project or anything to that effect. Sure we could call you or request more
info but many developers here are snowed under with work and haven't got the
time to follow up for info that should be provided in the first instance.
Moreover - and this may again be my personal opinion only - it doesn't help
if the request comes from a more or less anonymous email account such as
AOL, Hotmail or similar.
Stefan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
[mailto:flashcomm-
> bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of FT
OUCH-YDxpq3io04c@public.gmane.org
> Sent: 26 November 2005 23:47
> To: flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
> Subject: [FlashComm] Looking for a developer
>
> Hello
>
> I am looking for a developer who has intensive background in FCS,
> particularly in web conferencing (video, audio and presentations) for
> immediate
> consideration.
>
> Please respond to this message to my e-mail address (and not to the forum)
> or
> call me at 410-530 3124.
>
> Thank you
> David Evgey
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11-27-05 10:45 PM
Response to Stefan:
I am looking for an FCS developer for a medical project for immediate
consideration. The way I do it and what e-mail address I use is a matter of
style.
You can develop a healthy sense of suspicion, that's OK, but try to pick up
on something with more substance. I guess, you probably have made the right
decision, not to make your living from being a detective...
If you are still not sure, or more important if you know a good developer,
here is my full name and phone number:
David Evgey
410-530 3124
\n a message dated 11/27/05 7:49:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org writes:
> Hi David,
> Please don't take this the wrong may but why are you having such a hard ti
me
> finding a developer? I remember you posting on my forum and I also remembe
r
> a direct email request.
>
> I personally tend to get suspicious when I see these types of postings in
> which people post jobs without any info about themselves, the company, the
> project or anything to that effect. Sure we could call you or request more
> info but many developers here are snowed under with work and haven't got t
he
> time to follow up for info that should be provided in the first instance.
>
> Moreover - and this may again be my personal opinion only -- it doesn't he
lp
> if the request comes from a more or less anonymous email account such as
> AOL, Hotmail or similar.
>
> Stefan
>
>
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11-27-05 10:45 PM
In David's defense, telling 800 people a day, "Sorry, the job is no longer
available" gets old fast when 99% of not qualified to begin with. You think
you get spam now...
----- Original Message -----
From: <FTOUCH-YDxpq3io04c@public.gmane.org>
To: <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Looking for a developer
Response to Stefan:
I am looking for an FCS developer for a medical project for immediate
consideration. The way I do it and what e-mail address I use is a matter of
style.
You can develop a healthy sense of suspicion, that's OK, but try to pick up
on something with more substance. I guess, you probably have made the right
decision, not to make your living from being a detective...
If you are still not sure, or more important if you know a good developer,
here is my full name and phone number:
David Evgey
410-530 3124
\n a message dated 11/27/05 7:49:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org writes:
> Hi David,
> Please don't take this the wrong may but why are you having such a hard
> time
> finding a developer? I remember you posting on my forum and I also
> remember
> a direct email request.
>
> I personally tend to get suspicious when I see these types of postings in
> which people post jobs without any info about themselves, the company, the
> project or anything to that effect. Sure we could call you or request more
> info but many developers here are snowed under with work and haven't got
> the
> time to follow up for info that should be provided in the first instance.
>
> Moreover - and this may again be my personal opinion only -- it doesn't
> help
> if the request comes from a more or less anonymous email account such as
> AOL, Hotmail or similar.
>
> Stefan
>
>
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11-27-05 10:45 PM
On Nov 27, 2005, at 6:48 AM, Stefan Richter wrote:
>
>Hi David,
>Please don't take this the wrong may but why are you having such a hard ti=
me
finding a developer? I remember you posting on my forum and I also remember
a direct email request.
>
>I personally tend to get suspicious when I see these types of postings in
which people post jobs without any info about themselves, the company, the
project or anything to that effect. Sure we could call you or request more
info but many developers here are snowed under with work and haven't got th=
e
time to follow up for info that should be provided in the first instance.
>
>Moreover - and this may again be my personal opinion only - it doesn't hel=
p
if the request comes from a more or less anonymous email account such as
AOL, Hotmail or similar.
>
>Stefan
The reason that David is playing Cloak & Dagger, as well as why he's
not being so clear on what he's doing is that he's pretty much a
professional spammer.
You see... David has created a program called "U-Harvest". (Reference
here: http://groups.google.com/group/news...htings/browse_=
thread/thread/f550191b0bc7a93a/284c46bbed9aec92
)
U-Harvest is one of those delightful programs that you point at a
website and it extracts every email address found on it.=20
http://www.uharvest.com
In fact, he uses this program himself for his other company called
"adrenamail" to look for prospective clients. Not in his favor, he's
not too descriminate as to where he points U-Harvest, and ends up
spamming mailing lists and others with his sales pitch.=20
http://groups.google.com/group/news.../browse_thread=
/thread/1fa861352ae8894e/701dde17d1da925e
I suspect the "medical" application he's talking about is his other
site at http://www.upindirectory.com which is a directory of
healthcare professionals. (Connection between David and upindirectory
here: http://groups.google.com/group/news...ghtings/browse=
_thread/thread/67979b37817dc854/b0921785843d7816
also that www.upindirectory.com mentions adrenamail at the bottom).
He spams this all over the place too....
http://groups.google.com/group/news.../browse_thread=
/thread/ea001af6d9a14445/aed0d51d71147997
(click "Show quoted text" to actually see the spam)
So, yeah.. If you want to work for a guy that:
* indiscriminately spams Open Source mailing lists looking for their
"marketing/sales manager" =20
http://lists.tldp.org/index.cgi?7:mss:1994:200211
* thinks scanning entire web servers for finding email addresses and
mailing them all is an effective sales tool =20
http://groups.google.com/group/news.../browse_thread=
/thread/f550191b0bc7a93a/284c46bbed9aec92
* goes through programmers like candy. Just looking at Usenet spam
alone: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=3...2&qt_s=3DSearch
there are at least 80 requests there for programmers he's posted in
the last few years.
I'm sure he'd love to hear from you.
If you have any doubt that this David Evgey is the one that I'm
talking about... This page here:
http://www.pharma-mkting.com/pmrd/ma-listings.html
Lists "David Evgey", the FTOUCH-YDxpq3io04c@public.gmane.org email address h
e used to post
here, a link to upinDirectory, and the same phone number he's used in
other spam.
Sorry to disappoint anyone who was looking for some kind of medical
imaging system or something.
I don't mean to flame david, but I'm sure 99% of you wouldn't want to
work on a project like this, so I'm trying to save you all some time.
(waits for threats of lawsuit...)
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11-27-05 10:45 PM
...well, I was half right...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Dunkfloat" <bobdunkfloat-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Looking for a developer
On Nov 27, 2005, at 6:48 AM, Stefan Richter wrote:
>
>Hi David,
>Please don't take this the wrong may but why are you having such a hard
>time
finding a developer? I remember you posting on my forum and I also remember
a direct email request.
>
>I personally tend to get suspicious when I see these types of postings in
which people post jobs without any info about themselves, the company, the
project or anything to that effect. Sure we could call you or request more
info but many developers here are snowed under with work and haven't got the
time to follow up for info that should be provided in the first instance.
>
>Moreover - and this may again be my personal opinion only - it doesn't help
if the request comes from a more or less anonymous email account such as
AOL, Hotmail or similar.
>
>Stefan
The reason that David is playing Cloak & Dagger, as well as why he's
not being so clear on what he's doing is that he's pretty much a
professional spammer.
You see... David has created a program called "U-Harvest". (Reference
here:
http://groups.google.com/group/news...84c46bbed9aec92
)
U-Harvest is one of those delightful programs that you point at a
website and it extracts every email address found on it.
http://www.uharvest.com
In fact, he uses this program himself for his other company called
"adrenamail" to look for prospective clients. Not in his favor, he's
not too descriminate as to where he points U-Harvest, and ends up
spamming mailing lists and others with his sales pitch.
http://groups.google.com/group/news...01dde17d1da925e
I suspect the "medical" application he's talking about is his other
site at http://www.upindirectory.com which is a directory of
healthcare professionals. (Connection between David and upindirectory
here:
http://groups.google.com/group/news...0921785843d7816
also that www.upindirectory.com mentions adrenamail at the bottom).
He spams this all over the place too....
http://groups.google.com/group/news...ed0d51d71147997
(click "Show quoted text" to actually see the spam)
So, yeah.. If you want to work for a guy that:
* indiscriminately spams Open Source mailing lists looking for their
"marketing/sales manager"
http://lists.tldp.org/index.cgi?7:mss:1994:200211
* thinks scanning entire web servers for finding email addresses and
mailing them all is an effective sales tool
http://groups.google.com/group/news...84c46bbed9aec92
* goes through programmers like candy. Just looking at Usenet spam
alone: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%...%22&qt_s=Search
there are at least 80 requests there for programmers he's posted in
the last few years.
I'm sure he'd love to hear from you.
If you have any doubt that this David Evgey is the one that I'm
talking about... This page here:
http://www.pharma-mkting.com/pmrd/ma-listings.html
Lists "David Evgey", the FTOUCH-YDxpq3io04c@public.gmane.org email address h
e used to post
here, a link to upinDirectory, and the same phone number he's used in
other spam.
Sorry to disappoint anyone who was looking for some kind of medical
imaging system or something.
I don't mean to flame david, but I'm sure 99% of you wouldn't want to
work on a project like this, so I'm trying to save you all some time.
(waits for threats of lawsuit...)
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11-27-05 10:45 PM
to be honest, I believe him. I responded to your email a while back and
heard nothing back either, which like Stefan, raised my suspicion on if your
request is legit or not.. combined with an AOL account... guess it doesn't
matter anymore though.
-----Original Message-----
From: flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.
org] On Behalf Of FTOUCH-YDxpq3io04c@public.gmane.org
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:05 AM
To: flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Looking for a developer
Bob Dunkfloat: (or whatever is your name)
I have read your long, long post and I dont understand what you are trying
to say.
If you say that I am posting the message just to get your stupid e-mail
address, or others for that matter, you are insulting the intelligence of
the members of this forum.
David Evgey
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11-27-05 10:45 PM
I can say the same that Graeme. I responded to your email and i didnt get
any response from you.
2005/11/28, Graeme Bull <graeme.bull-lB/6vUJvybQOPmVbiNFCMNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>:[vbc
ol=seagreen]
>
> to be honest, I believe him. I responded to your email a while back and
> heard nothing back either, which like Stefan, raised my suspicion on if
> your
> request is legit or not.. combined with an AOL account... guess it doesn'=[/vbcol]
t
> matter anymore though.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gman
e.org] On Behalf Of
> FTOUCH-YDxpq3io04c@public.gmane.org
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:05 AM
> To: flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Looking for a developer
>
> Bob Dunkfloat: (or whatever is your name)
>
> I have read your long, long post and I dont understand what you are
> trying
> to say.
>
> If you say that I am posting the message just to get your stupid e-mail
> address, or others for that matter, you are insulting the intelligence of
> the members of this forum.
>
> David Evgey
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11-27-05 10:45 PM
>Bob Dunkfloat: (or whatever is your name)
>
>I have read your long, long post and I dont understand what you are tryin=
g
>to say.
>
>If you say that I am posting the message just to get your stupid e-mail
>address, or others for that matter, you are insulting the intelligence of =
the
>members of this forum.
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
Your reputation as a spammer precedes you on a lot of developer
communities. Many of us developers find spam unethical and usually
done in an illegal way. We're all tired of the spam we get, I don't
think many developers would knowingly be helping someone who sells
products and services designed to increase the spam we receive.
(Seriously, look at UHarvest mentioned in my last post. Tell me there
are legitimate uses for a program that scans entire websites to
"harvest" the email addresses from it)
However, this is one of your first posts to this list, so I don't
think the majority of people here are familiar with your history, as
some of us are on other lists and forums.
I piped up because your original post(as is usual for you) was vague
enough that for anyone to figure out what the job was they would have
had to contact you.
You've been constantly looking for developers (mailing list posts,
usenet posts, forum posts, etc) for years now, as evidenced by
Google's history. Either you're trying to build up a database of
developers, or you're going through programmers incredibly quickly
which says a lot about your relationship with developers. Either way,
I'm trying to save everyone else the legwork of figuring out your
history.
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