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    SUN N1 equivalent  
yls177


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12-02-05 07:51 AM

Hi.

Recently, i came across this SUN N1 technology stuff. Did some reading,
and realized that its the equivalent of HP RP** series of servers where
u can do logical partitioning and etc, and also IBM Regatta.

Any comments?

Rgds






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    Re: SUN N1 equivalent  
Chris \Saundo\ Saunderson


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12-17-05 10:55 PM

yls177 wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Recently, i came across this SUN N1 technology stuff. Did some reading,
> and realized that its the equivalent of HP RP** series of servers where
> u can do logical partitioning and etc, and also IBM Regatta.

It's not really apples vs oranges.

N1 is a provisioning architecture, as is IBM's OnDemand and HP's VSE
(formerly Adaptive Enterprise, formerly Utility Data Center).

Now what is analogous is the Sun domain concept (on the SunFire higher
end boxes), tyhe HP nPar/vPar concept and IBM LPAR. This is physical
partitioning.

Finally, you have the logical partitioning, aka Sun Containers/Zones,
HP's Integrity Virtual Machines, IBM's DLPARs and VMWare/Xen/Virtuozzo.


The "partitioning" continuum is an area of almost infinite complexity
and almost zero consistency, so it's important to make sure that you're
being careful in what you're drawing comparisons between.

Chris





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    Re: SUN N1 equivalent  
Doug Freyburger


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12-19-05 11:02 PM

Chris "Saundo" Saunderson wrote:
>
> The "partitioning" continuum is an area of almost infinite complexity
> and almost zero consistency, so it's important to make sure that you're
> being careful in what you're drawing comparisons between.

My conclusion - It is an idea early in this lifecycle.  The market will
determine the most common forms to be used and as the
technology matures these many options will distill down to several
and we will see inter-platform commonality.  Until then use what
you like and be a part of the market forces and/or do work on the
inside of the technologies to push its progress.  (Getting it into some
Linux distro maybe).






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    Re: SUN N1 equivalent  
Chris \Saundo\ Saunderson


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12-24-05 10:56 PM

Doug Freyburger wrote:
> Chris "Saundo" Saunderson wrote:
> 
>
>
> My conclusion - It is an idea early in this lifecycle.  The market will
> determine the most common forms to be used and as the
> technology matures these many options will distill down to several
> and we will see inter-platform commonality.  Until then use what
> you like and be a part of the market forces and/or do work on the
> inside of the technologies to push its progress.  (Getting it into some
> Linux distro maybe).
>

VMWare is winning the x86 $-ware space, Xen is winning the x86 !$-ware
space.  The Unix vendors are all doing practically the same things, so
it really doesn't matter who is winning.

I do have to say that I like the concept of N1+Containers/Zones more
than I like HP VSE+IVM or DLPAR+OnDemand.

Finally, hardware partitioning/virtualization is just a bagatelle for
application virtualization anyway. The ultimate goal is to have an
application package that can be migrated onto any compute resource
without knowledge or preference on which architecture/OS/storage it
requires, just consuming resources.

Chris





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