Anonymous remailers are not new. Internet vandalism from anonymous
remailers is as old as the very first remailer.  Vandalism off the net is as
old as the first remailer.


What is interesting is the level of MORONS it can attract. Most users
are like anyone else, why they use remailers remains a mystery because they
could use ANY legitimate ISP.  But remailers also attracts the WORST on the
internet.

What is funny is how EASY it is to set off those morons.  Say anything
negative about remailers and they have a Pabinsky response. It's almost fun
to watch their INSANE defense of spamming newsgroups because they get
tweaked.

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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:37:13 GMT,  KRP wrote in
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>     Anonymous remailers are not new. Internet vandalism from anonymous
> remailers is as old as the very first remailer.  Vandalism off the net is 
as
> old as the first remailer.

You've started a brand new thread attacking remailers and once again
included fl.general in the distribution.  A few days ago you were
complaining about remailers posting there.  Surely even to you it's
obvious that this is goading remailer users into posting there in
response to your attack?

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Zax <fleegle@bananasplit.info> wrote:
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>On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:37:13 GMT,  KRP wrote in
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> 
>
>You've started a brand new thread attacking remailers and once again
>included fl.general in the distribution.  A few days ago you were
>complaining about remailers posting there.  Surely even to you it's
>obvious that this is goading remailer users into posting there in
>response to your attack?

It's looking more and more like he wants these things to happen.  He
complains constantly about some guy attacking him through a remailer, yet
when the same guy offered to bring this bizarre flamewar to an end, he came
up with excuses.

KRP seems to think this is some actual war he's fighting, and that
something of importance will be gained by continuing to fight it.  He said
earlier that walking away from it would be "surrender" and that he had no
intention of doing that.  He's been doing this for 8 years and written over
11,000 messages on this subject.  I wouldn't count on him stopping anytime
soon, unfortunately.

Rich

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> You've started a brand new thread attacking remailers and once again
> included fl.general in the distribution.  A few days ago you were
> complaining about remailers posting there.  Surely even to you it's
> obvious that this is goading remailer users into posting there in
> response to your attack?

He desires attention.

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On Wed,  4 Jan 2006, Anonymous <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote: 
>
>He desires attention.

He's been at it so long he can't imagine life without his imaginary friend,
Davey.

That's OK, though. He's fat and doughy and out of shape... maybe he'll have
a heart attack and fall over dead soon. No one will miss him, and many will
cheer his finally shutting the hell up!

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In <dcQuf.712$Gu6.52@trnddc06> " KRP" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
>    Anonymous remailers are not new. Internet vandalism from anonymous
>remailers is as old as the very first remailer.  Vandalism off the net is a
s
>old as the first remailer.
>
Vandalism off the net is as old as the Vandals, an East German tribe
that entered the Late Roman Empire in the 5th Century, A.D.

Persona

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Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
 
>
> It's looking more and more like he wants these things to happen.  He

You're just now coming to terms with that reality? ;)

> complains constantly about some guy attacking him through a remailer,
> yet when the same guy offered to bring this bizarre flamewar to an end,
> he came up with excuses.

Of course he does. Ken's life revolves around taking the frustrations of
real life out on others from behind the safety of his Internet connection.
If he behaved the way he does here in front of real people, he'd be
residing in the prison infirmary.

Ken simply doesn't possess the intestinal fortitude to give up his
pathetic on line quest for the legitimization that eludes him elsewhere.
It's truly not in his power to to make honest attempts at improving
himself. He's far to long steeped in some bizarre misconception that one
can become "better" by practicing a zen like level of the worst behavior
any alleged adult can practice.

> KRP seems to think this is some actual war he's fighting, and that
> something of importance will be gained by continuing to fight it.  He

This probably IS is Ken's reality. Or at least part of it. When you read
through the stuff he says with a critical eye you'll recognize a strange
lack of any real distinction between Usenet and Palm Harbor. Ken lives as
much in here, as he does out there. 

> said earlier that walking away from it would be "surrender" and that he
> had no intention of doing that.  He's been doing this for 8 years and
> written over 11,000 messages on this subject.  I wouldn't count on him
> stopping anytime soon, unfortunately.

ACK   

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KRP wrote:

>     Anonymous remailers are not new. Internet vandalism from anonymous
> remailers is as old as the very first remailer.  Vandalism off the net is
> as old as the first remailer.

Net abuse is as old as the net itself, and vehicular homicide is as
old as the automobile. Your entire argument is a logical error that's
commonly called a fallacy of composition.

It's also a classic case of the pot commenting on the kettle's lack of
color...

>     What is interesting is the level of MORONS it can attract. Most users

Yes. We have in fact observed you for nearly two decades now, in stunned
amazement that you'd be able to sustain your curious level of amorality so
perfectly. I honestly can't remember ever seeing, or hearing about,
anything you've done to add any sort of value to any discussion or other
presence here on the net. That's not even an exaggeration Ken. You've been
nothing but a festering boil on the rear end of the net since you appeared
here, and likewise afflicted other similar venues prior to that.

> are like anyone else, why they use remailers remains a mystery because
> they could use ANY legitimate ISP.

At the moment I'm using remailers to avoid having my email addresses
bombed with forged threats from the police, and my phone number dialed by
caller ID blocked extensions in the middle of the night. Twice in the
past, addressing your behavior precisely as I'm doing now has produced
that exact effect. And even though I look on you as more of an amusement
than a thereat, Ken, I don't care to give you she self satisfaction of
doing it again. In light of what you've done to me myself and others, it's
a public service and a source of gratification to be able to say what you
and everyone else knows to be true, with complete impunity in respect to
your childish attempts at retribution.

Sure, you can take a wild guess. You might even get lucky and pick the
right person from among the dozens you've wholesale attacked outside these
groups. But you know if you don't restrain yourself to one or two, and
only small spurts of traffic, you'll be outed as a flooder now. You fear
that even the remailers you've used to successfully hide behind while
attacking those who expose you are getting so fed up with you that they
might break their "prime directive" and  deal you yet another crushing
blow you'd spend the NEXT 20 years trying in vain to explain away with the
most ridiculous excuses to ever be immortalized in ASCII.

And this is precisely why you're on your mini-crusade this month. At least
one Remailer Operator posted here anonymously, threatening to expose you,
so just like newsgroups where you're exposed by numerous people you attack
the entity as a whole.

> But remailers also attracts the WORST
> on the internet.

Yes, we know you exist. There's really nothing we can do about you or it
would have been done a long time ago. Every time we get one of your
accounts canceled you get another, and it wouldn't be fair to the
majority, valid users of remailers to attack remailers directly. So we
mostly ignore your idiocy, unless addressing it amuses us for a time.

>     What is funny is how EASY it is to set off those morons.  Say anything

Absolutely. With only two or three posts driving home a single point
regarding your lying or other insidious activity you'll dive head long
into a flurry of mostly flaccid "vengeance" that puts garden variety
trolls and flooders to shame.

> negative about remailers and they have a Pabinsky response. It's almost
> fun to watch their INSANE defense of spamming newsgroups because they
> get tweaked.

Several well spoken and dedicated people handing you your XXX on a platter
with a side order of facts, common sense, and honesty, isn't the
definition of insanity Ken. Waging a near decade long war on the Internet
by accusing everyone and everybody of being the same person, and full
quoting almost every bit of abuse that person throws your way while peeing
yourself in public over what a severe threat that person is, is the
definition of insanity Ken. Foisting your empty bombast on this group when
it's so ridiculously obvious you're responsible for a very large chunk of
the problem you're whining and crying about is the definition of insanity,
Ken. Welcome to reality. Have a nice day. 

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"Borked Pseudo Mailed" <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote in message
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> Zax <fleegle@bananasplit.info> wrote:

> up with excuses.
>
> KRP seems to think this is some actual war he's fighting, and that
> something of importance will be gained by continuing to fight it.

And you seem to have chosen sides Rich. The only question was when did you
do it?

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DAVID MOORE AS
"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
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xmaster.it...
> KRP wrote:
> 
>
> Net abuse is as old as the net itself, and vehicular homicide is as
> old as the automobile. Your entire argument is a logical error that's
> commonly called a fallacy of composition.
>
> It's also a classic case of the pot commenting on the kettle's lack of
> color...
> 
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Yes. We have in fact observed you for nearly two decades now, in stunned
> amazement that you'd be able to sustain your curious level of amorality so
> perfectly. I honestly can't remember ever seeing, or hearing about,
> anything you've done to add any sort of value to any discussion or other
> presence here on the net. That's not even an exaggeration Ken. You've been
> nothing but a festering boil on the rear end of the net since you appeared
> here, and likewise afflicted other similar venues prior to that.

Davey you would be amusing if not so tragic,
> 
[vbcol=seagreen]
> At the moment I'm using remailers to avoid having my email addresses
> bombed with forged threats from the police, and my phone number dialed by
> caller ID blocked extensions in the middle of the night. Twice in the
> past, addressing your behavior precisely as I'm doing now has produced
> that exact effect. And even though I look on you as more of an amusement
> than a thereat, Ken, I don't care to give you she self satisfaction of
> doing it again. In light of what you've done to me myself and others, it's
> a public service and a source of gratification to be able to say what you
> and everyone else knows to be true, with complete impunity in respect to
> your childish attempts at retribution.

SURE YOU ARE DAVEY! Now post 30 messages as CAPTAIN FREEDOM telling us you
haven't posted to Usenet in 35 years!  That'll be good for a chuckle or two.
You accusing people of what YOU do. YOU have called ME with death threats
and THAT is a ammter of record.

> And this is precisely why you're on your mini-crusade this month. At least
> one Remailer Operator posted here anonymously, threatening to expose you,
> so just like newsgroups where you're exposed by numerous people you attack
> the entity as a whole.

Nope no REMOP did any such thing. Here is simple. So we don't HIDE
behind the BULLSHIT, Mr. Moore. IF that REMOP has logs that prove I used his
remailer then I give permission to post them for the world to see. Of course
identifying himself.  BUT since you and the other RETARDS in the remailer
heaven claim that there are NO LOGS and this would be IMPOSSIBLE.... Let me
just sit here Moore and laugh my XXX off at you.
 
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Yes, we know you exist. There's really nothing we can do about you or it
> would have been done a long time ago. Every time we get one of your
> accounts canceled you get another, and it wouldn't be fair to the
> majority, valid users of remailers to attack remailers directly. So we
> mostly ignore your idiocy, unless addressing it amuses us for a time.

My on my you claim that YOU have gotten MY accounts cancelled!  I find
this fascinating since you WHINE like the little PANSY you are that the ONLY
reason you use remailers is because *I* get *YOUR* accounts cancelled. Isn't
this just a LAUIGH RIOT!  Davey you just HAVE to trip over your bullshit
don't ya?  Let's see Davey, IF I was worried about losing accounts I could
be just like you - AN XXXXXXX USING A REMAILER..................

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