I would like to get an official response as to the future
of the 2002 extensions. What are the plans for future
support, when is end of life, will sharepoitn services
support all of the functionalility that the 2002
extensions
support? I feel for how we have them implemented at our
organizations, shairpoint services are over kill compared
to what we need from the FrontPage extensions. Any one
have any reesponse?

Thanks,

Rick
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Stefan,
>
>Thanks for the info.  For the most part, I understand
what is supported.
>I'm wondering why WSS doesn't support everything since it
appears to be the
>future for FrontPage.
>
>
>"Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
>news:eWU$eE5yDHA.1744@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... 
comparing what is
>supported on what server type 
http://www.microsoft.com/office/fro...odinfo/servers.
mspx 
FrontPage ] 
(-; 
>news:uWki6t2yDHA.2508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... 
but I do support
>some 
direction Microsoft is
>taking 
enhancing FrontPage Server 
Windows SharePoint 
question...is that
>statement 
SharePoint Services
>2.0 
2002.  Yet, when
>trying 
message: 
components that will not
>display 
So, in order to have
>the 
do I need to have 
FrontPage Server 
using FrontPage Server 
people to start using
>WSS 
functionality in it. 
only using WSS 2.0 
databases and
>programming? 
2002 website to a
>WSS 
>
>
>.
>
.

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LIfe-Cycle of Office Products:
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...scid=fh;[ln];LifeOfficeFam

Sharepoint Newsgroups:
WSS newsgroup support:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microso...windowsservices

Try the Share Point Team Services Newsgroups:

a.. news://msnews.microsoft.com/microso...nt.teamservices
(Usability)
b..
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microso...amservices.caml
(Custom Development)
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Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.microsoft.com/office/fro...fo/default.mspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/un...ding/frontpage/
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"Rick" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3ca101c3fdb3$13e5b3a0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
| I would like to get an official response as to the future
| of the 2002 extensions. What are the plans for future
| support, when is end of life, will sharepoitn services
| support all of the functionalility that the 2002
| extensions
| support? I feel for how we have them implemented at our
| organizations, shairpoint services are over kill compared
| to what we need from the FrontPage extensions. Any one
| have any reesponse?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Rick
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Stefan,
| >
| >Thanks for the info.  For the most part, I understand
| what is supported.
| >I'm wondering why WSS doesn't support everything since it
| appears to be the
| >future for FrontPage.
| >
| >
| >"Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in
| message
| >news:eWU$eE5yDHA.1744@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| >> Believe the matrix at below link will assist in
| comparing what is
| >supported on what server type
| >>
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/fro...odinfo/servers.
| mspx
| >> --
| >>
| >>  ________________________________________
_____
| >> SBR @ ENJOY (-:              [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
| (-;
| >> To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >>   http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >>  ________________________________________
_____
| >>
| >>
| >> "Robert Winger" <webform@winger.com> wrote in message
| >news:uWki6t2yDHA.2508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| >> | I don't do much with FrontPage (just learning now),
| but I do support
| >some
| >> | web sites.  And, I'm a little confused on the
| direction Microsoft is
| >taking
| >> | with its FrontPage Server Extensions.
| >> |
| >> | From what I can gather, Microsoft has stopped
| enhancing FrontPage Server
| >> | Extensions and is now steering people towards using
| Windows SharePoint
| >> | Services 2.0.  Well, I guess that is my first
| question...is that
| >statement
| >> | true?
| >> |
| >> | Assuming that is true, I would think that Windows
| SharePoint Services
| >2.0
| >> | would be a superset of FrontPage Server Extentions
| 2002.  Yet, when
| >trying
| >> | to use some templates in FrontPage 2003, I get this
| message:
| >> |
| >> | "The template you have chosen contains some
| components that will not
| >display
| >> | correctly on this version of SharePoint Services."
| >> |
| >> | The version of SharePoint that I am using is 2.0.
| So, in order to have
| >the
| >> | best of everything as far as FrontPage is concerned,
| do I need to have
| >> | Windows SharePoint Services 2.0 installed as well as
| FrontPage Server
| >> | Extentions 2002?  I would like to stay away from
| using FrontPage Server
| >> | Extensions.  It seems odd that if Microsoft wanted
| people to start using
| >WSS
| >> | 2.0 that they wouldn't have included all of the
| functionality in it.
| >> |
| >> | Can someone tell me what else I would be loosing by
| only using WSS 2.0
| >> | without FPSE 2002...especially as it relates to
| databases and
| >programming?
| >> | And what would be the implications of moving a FPSE
| 2002 website to a
| >WSS
| >> | 2.0 website?
| >> |
| >> |
| >> |
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
| >.
| >
| .
|
|

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Rick,
I think the extensions have pretty much gone their development
route. From now on I would only expect to see maintenance releases to fix
bugs and/or security issues because of the way that FP 2003 now uses web
parts with Windows SharePoint Services and such.

As to when the life of the extensions will end, who will know. It
will probably be a long, long time since they come in both Windows XP Pro
and Windows 2003 Server. The SharePoint Team Services are pretty much a
superset of the FP Server Extensions, essentially they just add a bunch of
extra features for collaboration. The Windows SharePoint Services though
have a different model and some of the FP Server Extension features won't be
there anymore or have been changed. I don't think anything official has been
really said, other than there will be no further FP Server Extensions built.

Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

"Rick" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3ca101c3fdb3$13e5b3a0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> I would like to get an official response as to the future
> of the 2002 extensions. What are the plans for future
> support, when is end of life, will sharepoitn services
> support all of the functionalility that the 2002
> extensions
> support? I feel for how we have them implemented at our
> organizations, shairpoint services are over kill compared
> to what we need from the FrontPage extensions. Any one
> have any reesponse?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick 
> what is supported. 
> appears to be the 
> message 
> comparing what is 
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/fro...odinfo/servers.
> mspx 
> FrontPage ] 
> (-; 
> but I do support 
> direction Microsoft is 
> enhancing FrontPage Server 
> Windows SharePoint 
> question...is that 
> SharePoint Services 
> 2002.  Yet, when 
> message: 
> components that will not 
> So, in order to have 
> do I need to have 
> FrontPage Server 
> using FrontPage Server 
> people to start using 
> functionality in it. 
> only using WSS 2.0 
> databases and 
> 2002 website to a 
> .
>
>

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Thanks for the response. In our current install we have
2003 server with FPSE 2002 that ships with 2003 server.
We have been using FPSE since they first came out later
95' to support easy web development for our users. From
the easy form creation to submitting to database, it was
easy to teach and it was easy for the end user to utilize.
It was a great way to get non-web users utilizing and
creating online content. The SharePoint services do not
support most of the items that our end-users want to use.
SharePoint is obviously aimed for more group collaboration
and doc sharing than for creating personal web content.
The new release of SharePoint for 2003 server is overkill
for our needs. The version of 2002 extensions that came
with 2003 server are exactly what we need to continue.

Microsoft needs to continue to offer the FPSE environment
for those who do not and will not need the type of group
collaboration environment that SharePoint services is
aimed to serve.

Lets face it. There are users that need an easy to use
application like FrontPage and the support on the server
side like the extensions to enable the end user to create,
edit, deploy and manage web content easily. The FPSE that
shipped with 2003 server offers this environment. The new
SharePoint product for 2003 server does not.

With SharePoint going in a different direction and not
offering a lot of the resources that the FPSE offered like
counters, form submittal to access databases, and other
core items that make web development easy for the end user
we are beginning to look at other solutions that may be
available.

I hope a Microsoft rep reads this and can comment and
understand that, although SharePoint is a powerful
collaboration tool, we still need a powerful server side
supporting app like the FrontPage Extensions available as
well along with an app like FrontPage.

Comments? anyone else agree?

Thanks - Rick
>-----Original Message-----
>Rick,
>        I think the extensions have pretty much gone
their development
>route. From now on I would only expect to see maintenance
releases to fix
>bugs and/or security issues because of the way that FP
2003 now uses web
>parts with Windows SharePoint Services and such.
>
>        As to when the life of the extensions will end,
who will know. It
>will probably be a long, long time since they come in
both Windows XP Pro
>and Windows 2003 Server. The SharePoint Team Services are
pretty much a
>superset of the FP Server Extensions, essentially they
just add a bunch of
>extra features for collaboration. The Windows SharePoint
Services though
>have a different model and some of the FP Server
Extension features won't be
>there anymore or have been changed. I don't think
anything official has been
>really said, other than there will be no further FP
Server Extensions built.
>
>        Hope this helps,
>        Mark Fitzpatrick
>        Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
>"Rick" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:3ca101c3fdb3$13e5b3a0$a101280a@phx.gbl... 
future 
compared 
it 
http://www.microsoft.com/office/fro...odinfo/servers. 
concerned, 
as 
>
>
>.
>

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