Please give any ideas how to implement the scenario to start an
orchestration daily in predefined time. I know that the simplest solution is
to use the Windows scheduler and to copy a "kickoff" xml file to a
orchestration folder, but I'm looking for BizTalk "pure" solutions.

Thanks in advance.
Michael

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There is a scheduling adapter that has been developed that will kick of an
orchestration. Not sure where it is but you should find it easily with
google.

An alternative is to use the SQL Adapter (on a receive location) to call a
stored procedure.

Another option is to use SQL Server jobs to create the XML message file for
BizTalk.

If you don't like the idea of creating files how about publishing your
orchestration as a web service?

And how about using the submit direct adapter to kick off the orchestration?
(this comes with the BizTalk SDK)

Personally I wouldn't get too locked in to the "pure" BizTalk argument;
there are many fantastic complementary technologies that Microsoft offer
with BizTalk so you should make use of them.

--
McGeeky
http://mcgeeky.blogspot.com


"MichaelS" <mmm_shark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Please give any ideas how to implement the scenario to start an
> orchestration daily in predefined time. I know that the simplest solution
> is to use the Windows scheduler and to copy a "kickoff" xml file to a
> orchestration folder, but I'm looking for BizTalk "pure" solutions.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Michael
>

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Hi Michael

I presume ur using file adpater for input; in that case have tried port
scheduling from BizTalk Administrator ?
That could help you out

Cheers

Vishy

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Thanks McGeeky for such a complete list how to do it.
I found the BizTalk Scheduled Adapter
http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/...c9-84bf4e783728
and it is what I looked for. That's pretty simple idea and I don't know why
MS did not included such an adapter to BizTalk 2006.

Regards,
Michael

"McGeeky" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
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> There is a scheduling adapter that has been developed that will kick of an
> orchestration. Not sure where it is but you should find it easily with
> google.
>
> An alternative is to use the SQL Adapter (on a receive location) to call a
> stored procedure.
>
> Another option is to use SQL Server jobs to create the XML message file
> for BizTalk.
>
> If you don't like the idea of creating files how about publishing your
> orchestration as a web service?
>
> And how about using the submit direct adapter to kick off the
> orchestration? (this comes with the BizTalk SDK)
>
> Personally I wouldn't get too locked in to the "pure" BizTalk argument;
> there are many fantastic complementary technologies that Microsoft offer
> with BizTalk so you should make use of them.
>
> --
> McGeeky
> http://mcgeeky.blogspot.com
>
>
> "MichaelS" <mmm_shark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%233KhWDPIGHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... 
>
>

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Hi Vishy,

I know about scheduling settings in the receive location but in this
scenario I still need something to create files in the recieve location
folder.

Michael

"Vishy" <vishal.halbe@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Michael
>
> I presume ur using file adpater for input; in that case have tried port
> scheduling from BizTalk Administrator ?
> That could help you out
>
> Cheers
>
> Vishy
>

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I think the reasoning behind not including one is that there are already
many scheduling solutions out there; providing one with BizTalk would simply
have been duplicating effort. Having said that I had exactly the same
thoughts as you when I first looked in to it.

--
McGeeky
http://mcgeeky.blogspot.com


"MichaelS" <mmm_shark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks McGeeky for such a complete list how to do it.
> I found the BizTalk Scheduled Adapter
>
http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/...ampleGuid=e473f
c93-5081-44c7-a9c9-84bf4e783728
> and it is what I looked for. That's pretty simple idea and I don't know
why
> MS did not included such an adapter to BizTalk 2006.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
> "McGeeky" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:eoOcMoPIGHA.604@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... 
an[vbcol=seagreen] 
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>
>

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I'm not agree. MS did include the Flat File Schema Wizard, however there
were a number of such wizards. If I have a MS component including into
BizTalk that means that component is reliable and will be fixed if any
problem occur. That's why I think a lot when I have to use a free component
(especially without the source code!) in the production environment.

Michael

"McGeeky" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
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>I think the reasoning behind not including one is that there are already
> many scheduling solutions out there; providing one with BizTalk would
> simply
> have been duplicating effort. Having said that I had exactly the same
> thoughts as you when I first looked in to it.
>
> --
> McGeeky
> http://mcgeeky.blogspot.com
>
>
> "MichaelS" <mmm_shark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:enRFkWQIGHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... 
> [url]http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=e473f[/ur
l]
> c93-5081-44c7-a9c9-84bf4e783728 
> why 
> an 
> a 
> solution 
>
>

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Michael,
The source code for the ScheduledTask Adapter is available on GotDotNet
http://www.gotdotnet.com/Workspaces...br />
c07426ef

This adapter was an entry in the Connected System Developer competition late
last year,
http://www.csdevcompetition.com/
It was probably too late to make the 2006 cut.

Greg



"MichaelS" <mmm_shark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not agree. MS did include the Flat File Schema Wizard, however there
> were a number of such wizards. If I have a MS component including into
> BizTalk that means that component is reliable and will be fixed if any
> problem occur. That's why I think a lot when I have to use a free
> component (especially without the source code!) in the production
> environment.
>
> Michael
>
> "McGeeky" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:%23iquicSIGHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... 
>
>

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Thank you Greg for such an outstanding adpater! MS defenitely should buy it
and include in Biztalk.
As far as I understand the minimum adapter interval is one day. How to set
it up with less interval, for instance, once in N hours? Add several receive
locations with different start time?

"Greg Forsythe" wrote:

> Michael,
> The source code for the ScheduledTask Adapter is available on GotDotNet
> http://www.gotdotnet.com/Workspaces... />
33c07426ef
>
> This adapter was an entry in the Connected System Developer competition la
te
> last year,
> http://www.csdevcompetition.com/
> It was probably too late to make the 2006 cut.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> "MichaelS" <mmm_shark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Ohs32xSIGHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... 
>
>
>

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Michael,
Yes you can add several receive locations with different start times,
although this could be painful to manage.

A change has been made by Ken Westelinck to add a fourth schedule type,
using a timespan, so you can schedule by minute or hour. I have yet to add
this code to the Workspace on GotDotNet.

I was also considering a repeat function like Windows Task Scheduler, so you
can schedule a task on Monday at 9:00 am and then repeat every minute/hour
for a period of time

Greg

"Michael" <Michael@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you Greg for such an outstanding adpater! MS defenitely should buy
> it
> and include in Biztalk.
> As far as I understand the minimum adapter interval is one day. How to set
> it up with less interval, for instance, once in N hours? Add several
> receive
> locations with different start time?
>
> "Greg Forsythe" wrote:
> 

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