Very few posts in apas lately, and test posts are taking a long time
to get to the test newsgroup or are not making it at all.

Is there a problem with gateways? Is the CIA testing a partial shutdown
of anonymous remailers as aiding terrorists? Something else?

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Patti Lorel <Lorel@ginge.sumner.fre> wrote:
>Very few posts in apas lately, and test posts are taking a long time
>to get to the test newsgroup or are not making it at all.
>
>Is there a problem with gateways? Is the CIA testing a partial shutdown
>of anonymous remailers as aiding terrorists? Something else?

Shut the XXXX up, eelbash.

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In article <QYKdnSsW47H-aIvZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@teksavvy.com>
admin <admin@eelbash.org> wrote:
>
> Very few posts in apas lately

There's nothing much to talk about. The old threads have died off, and
no new subjects have emerged to discuss.

> Is there a problem with gateways? Is the CIA testing a partial shutdown
> of anonymous remailers as aiding terrorists? Something else?

There's nothing wrong with the remailers or gateways.

You seem to be living in a paranoid delusion. If the CIA have the
capability to control remailer traffic to the extent that they can shut
it down, why would they shut down a network that would be under their
control? Far better to watch it instead.

There is no evidence that terrorists have ever attempted to use the
remailer network. Computers found in the investigation of September
11th found that they communicated through unencrypted regular Hotmail
accounts.
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anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
[..]

: There is no evidence that terrorists have ever attempted to use the
: remailer network. Computers found in the investigation of September
: 11th found that they communicated through unencrypted regular Hotmail
: accounts.

I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
terrorist acts.

Cheers,
Alex

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adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote:

> I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
> terrorist acts.

"Claim" != "claim honestly"

Investigations of terrorism, serial killers, etc., are often hampered
by false claims of responsibility from cranks.

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Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
: adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote:

: > I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
: > terrorist acts.

: "Claim" != "claim honestly"

: Investigations of terrorism, serial killers, etc., are often hampered
: by false claims of responsibility from cranks.

Well if you claim a few minutes *before* the actual 'event' I beg
to differ ...

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In <dv9b47$7si$1@heroin.sabotage.org>, adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org wrote:
>anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
>[..]
>
>: There is no evidence that terrorists have ever attempted to use the
>: remailer network. Computers found in the investigation of September
>: 11th found that they communicated through unencrypted regular Hotmail
>: accounts.
>
>I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
>terrorist acts.
>
>Cheers,
>Alex

which terrorist acts?

evidence? documentation?

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adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote:

> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
> : adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote:
>
> : > I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
> : > terrorist acts.
>
> : "Claim" != "claim honestly"
>
> : Investigations of terrorism, serial killers, etc., are often hampered
> : by false claims of responsibility from cranks.
>
> Well if you claim a few minutes *before* the actual 'event' I beg
> to differ ...

Good point!  Could you give some references for this event?

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Alex de Joode wrote:

> anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
> [..]
>
> : There is no evidence that terrorists have ever attempted to use the
> : remailer network. Computers found in the investigation of September 11th
> : found that they communicated through unencrypted regular Hotmail
> : accounts.
>
> I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain terrorist
> acts.

Without some sort of proof that's a bit like saying "I know for a fact
Alex de Joode is a space alien who genetically engineers hamsters for use
in his diabolical plot to conquer Earth." ;)

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> Alex de Joode wrote:
> 
>
> Without some sort of proof that's a bit like saying "I know for a fact
> Alex de Joode is a space alien who genetically engineers hamsters for
> use in his diabolical plot to conquer Earth." ;)

Cool!  Way to go!


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