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    Changes to mixmin mail2news  
Zax


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04-18-06 05:10 AM

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Following comments from Bikikii Admin (Thanks!), I've changed the format
of the gateway to follow the convention used by the lcs version.

mail2news-YYYYMMDD-alt.test@m2n.mixmin.net
mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-alt.test@m2n.mixmin.net
mail2news-YYYYMMDD-alt.test=alt.testing.testing@m2n.mixmin.net
mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-alt.test=alt.testing.testing@m2n.mixmin.net

Note: This format breaks compatibility with the previous versions of
this code!

For crossposting, the '=' is used as a delimiter as the usual '+'
appears in various newsgroup names.

If a Newsgroups header is included, the message is processed in the
usual manner.  Send messages to:
mail2news@m2n.mixmin.net
mail2news_nospam@m2n.mixmin.net

Although still in test and development, the service will now post to any
newsgroups, not just test groups.

Feedback welcomed.

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    Re: Changes to mixmin mail2news  
A.Melon


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04-18-06 05:10 AM

In article <e1ge7k$rp2$1@bananasplit.info>
Zax <fleegle@bananasplit.info> wrote:
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> Following comments from Bikikii Admin (Thanks!), I've changed the format
> of the gateway to follow the convention used by the lcs version.
>
> mail2news-YYYYMMDD-alt.test@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-alt.test@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news-YYYYMMDD-alt.test=alt.testing.testing@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-alt.test=alt.testing.testing@m2n.mixmin.net
>
> Note: This format breaks compatibility with the previous versions of
> this code!
>
> For crossposting, the '=' is used as a delimiter as the usual '+'
> appears in various newsgroup names.
>
> If a Newsgroups header is included, the message is processed in the
> usual manner.  Send messages to:
> mail2news@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news_nospam@m2n.mixmin.net
>
> Although still in test and development, the service will now post to any
> newsgroups, not just test groups.
>
> Feedback welcomed.
>

I wonder why I'm getting this
Z:\Temp>tracert m2n.mixmin.net
Unable to resolve target system name m2n.mixmin.net.



























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    Re: Changes to mixmin mail2news  
Zax


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04-18-06 05:10 AM

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:34:58 -0700 (PDT), A.Melon wrote in
Message-Id: < e843f5aea47fe96544e77979894c0f44@melontr
affickers.com>:

> I wonder why I'm getting this
> Z:\Temp>tracert m2n.mixmin.net
> Unable to resolve target system name m2n.mixmin.net.

Because it is unresolvable. The domain doesn't resolve to an IP
address.  It's only an MX subdomain.

user@bingo:~$ dig m2n.mixmin.net mx

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> m2n.mixmin.net mx
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 45366
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 5

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;m2n.mixmin.net.                        IN      MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
m2n.mixmin.net.         86400   IN      MX      10 snorky.mixmin.net.

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    Re: Changes to mixmin mail2news  
Thrasher Remailer


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04-18-06 05:10 AM

In article <e1gk4l$vn8$1@bananasplit.info>
Zax <fleegle@bananasplit.info> wrote:
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> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:34:58 -0700 (PDT), A.Melon wrote in
> Message-Id: < e843f5aea47fe96544e77979894c0f44@melontr
affickers.com>:
> 
>
> Because it is unresolvable. The domain doesn't resolve to an IP
> address.  It's only an MX subdomain.
>

That explains that.
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    Re: Changes to mixmin mail2news  
admin


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04-18-06 05:10 AM

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:24:52 +0000, Zax wrote:

>
> Following comments from Bikikii Admin (Thanks!), I've changed the format
> of the gateway to follow the convention used by the lcs version.
>
> mail2news-YYYYMMDD-alt.test@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-alt.test@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news-YYYYMMDD-alt.test=alt.testing.testing@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-alt.test=alt.testing.testing@m2n.mixmin.net
>
> Note: This format breaks compatibility with the previous versions of this
> code!
>
> For crossposting, the '=' is used as a delimiter as the usual '+' appears
> in various newsgroup names.
>
> If a Newsgroups header is included, the message is processed in the usual
> manner.  Send messages to:
> mail2news@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news_nospam@m2n.mixmin.net
>
> Although still in test and development, the service will now post to any
> newsgroups, not just test groups.
>
> Feedback welcomed.
>

I want to keep the newsanon gateway as compatible as possible with the
other 'variant' gateways, but have a few problems with the present setup
of the banana and mit gateways.

I don't want to use the 'mail2news' string as part of the syntax for the
variant because the regular m2n gateways - mail2news@domain.... expect a
'newsgroups' header.  The purpose of the variant is for use by people who
can't include a 'newsgroups' header. Having the 'mail2news' string is
confusing.

As well, the syntax, with crossposting and nospam parameters, is crowded
enough without adding the 'mail2news' string.

Another thing is that the regular mail2news gateway does not need the
yyyymmdd parameter, so why associate the paramter with a 'mail2news'
string?

Good catch on the newsgroups that have + in their names. I'd forgotten
about them, and so, it seems, did the kids at mit, though that gateway may
have been up before any such newsgroups existed; perhaps it's just that
they haven't gotten around to updating the code yet.

I don't want to use the '=' as a new delimiter, however, and will go back
to using the double-dots '..' which strike me as nicely suggesting a
series, similar to what the comma does.

The newsanon variant gateway has additional options, which allow the user
to generate random 'from' headers, or ones that are associated with a
three-digit code that he can include in the 'to' header.

So here is the new, final I hope, syntax (except for nospam, which is on
the TODO list).

Please note that the  syntax below refers to the 'variant' gateway, the
one you would use if you could not use a 'newsgroups' header, or if you
wanted the additional options that the variant gateway allows.

Otherwise, just include mail2news@newsanon.org in the 'to' header and your
messages will be delivered to whatever newsgroups you specified in the
'newsgroups' header.

If you send an email to:

yyyymmdd-some.newsgroup@newsanon.org

it will end up in the newsgroup some.newsgroup, but with your ip and
other identifying information removed. The email address used with
your email/news client WILL be used in the message.

yyyymmdd must be a current date.

You can send to as many as 5 newsgroups:
yyyymmdd-news1..news2..news3..news4..news5@newsanon.org.

Separate the newsgroups with double-dots, as in the example.

Doing this uses whatever 'from' header your mail/news client is
using.



But here are various options to change the 'from' header to
your liking, as well as do other things. They are:

some.newsgroup_yyyymmdd@newsanon.org
this format uses a random nickname and domain for the
'from'	header.

some.newsgroup_999_yyyymmdd@newsanon.org
where '999' is a three-digit number from 000 to 999,
will provide a consistent nickname and domain for a given
3-digit number.

news1..news2..news3..news4..news5_999_yyyymmdd@newsanon.org
this sends the message to five newsgroups. You can use up to 5.

Joe.Blow|somedomain.com_yyyymmdd_some.newsgroup@newsanon.org
this creates a nickname of Joe Blow and a domain of
Blow@somedomain.com.


You can send to one or more email addresses instead of newsgroups
if you like.

Simply replace each newsgroup with an email address, but change the
'@' in the email addresses to '^'

For example: joeblow^newhwsrx.com_yyyymmdd@newsanon.org, will send
an email with a random 'from' address to joeblow@newhwsrx.com
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    Re: Changes to mixmin mail2news  
George Orwell


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04-18-06 05:11 AM

In article <pan.2006.04.11.19.16.57.876853@eelbash.org>
admin <admin@eelbash.org> wrote:
>
>
> If you send an email to:
>
>  yyyymmdd-some.newsgroup@newsanon.org
>
> it will end up in the newsgroup some.newsgroup, but with your ip and
> other identifying information removed. The email address used with
> your email/news client WILL be used in the message.
>
> yyyymmdd must be a current date.
>
> You can send to as many as 5 newsgroups:
> yyyymmdd-news1..news2..news3..news4..news5@newsanon.org.
>
> Separate the newsgroups with double-dots, as in the example.
>
> Doing this uses whatever 'from' header your mail/news client is
> using.
>
>
>
> But here are various options to change the 'from' header to
> your liking, as well as do other things. They are:
>
>  some.newsgroup_yyyymmdd@newsanon.org
>  this format uses a random nickname and domain for the
>  'from'	header.
>

So, what's the format today?
Is it yyyymmdd-group or group-yyyymmdd?





























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    Re: Changes to mixmin mail2news  
Zax


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04-18-06 05:11 AM

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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:54:47 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell wrote in
Message-Id: < d144330a65e5fe0e91762a30133d1ab7@mixmast
er.it>:

> So, what's the format today?
> Is it yyyymmdd-group or group-yyyymmdd?

Today's format is:-
mail2news-YYYYMMDD-news.group@m2n.mixmin.net
mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-news.group@m2n.mixmin.net
mail2news-YYYYMMDD-news.group1=news.group2=news.group3@m2n.mixmin.net
mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-news.group1=news.group2=news.group3@m2n.mixmin.net

This is identical to the lcs format except for the '=' delimiter
character instead of the lcs '+'.

HTH

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    Re: Changes to mixmin mail2news  
Thrasher Remailer


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04-18-06 05:11 AM

In article <e20drd$fru$1@bananasplit.info>
Zax <fleegle@bananasplit.info> wrote:
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> On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:54:47 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell wrote in
> Message-Id: < d144330a65e5fe0e91762a30133d1ab7@mixmast
er.it>:
> 
>
> Today's format is:-
> mail2news-YYYYMMDD-news.group@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-news.group@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news-YYYYMMDD-news.group1=news.group2=news.group3@m2n.mixmin.net
> mail2news_nospam-YYYYMMDD-news.group1=news.group2=news.group3@m2n.mixmin.n
et
>
> This is identical to the lcs format except for the '=' delimiter
> character instead of the lcs '+'.
>
> HTH
>

Thanks, but I was asking about the eelbash format.






















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    Re: Changes to mixmin mail2news  
BiKiKii Admin


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04-24-06 01:06 PM

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Zax wrote:

>I've changed the format of the gateway to follow the convention used
>by the lcs version.
>
>For crossposting, the '=' is used as a delimiter as the usual '+'
>appears in various newsgroup names.
>

Very good.
(not difficult to recall "+" vs. "=")

Is unfortunate that admin of newsanon.org does not follow suit.
As a consequence any mail to:

yyyymmdd-some.newsgroup@
yyyymmdd-news1..news2..news3..news4..news5@

is subject to Rand-Hop as domain is not whitelisted.

Ciao!

BiKiKii

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