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I've got a 'KHypermedia" 52x24x52 Seamless Link CD-RW drive.
I've triple checked all connections, it's connected as master device on the
secondary IDE cable.  IDE cable is new, power is connected and available
because on boot the drive light flashes a few times and when I hit the
eject button the tray opens and closes normally.

I've tried putting it as slave on the primary IDE (in place of an older 24x
Cd-Rom).

In every case, the system apparently cannot see it and all attempts to mount
it fail:

debian:/# mount /media/cdrom1
mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist

On another note, what's the best way to get firefox installed?
I tried first with apt-get:

debian:/# apt-get install firefox
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies.
firefox: Depends: libxfixes3 but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
debian:/#

I figured. 'ok, get that first then so the dependency will be met'
apt-get install libxfixes3 ends up resulting in:

The following packages have unmet dependencies.
libxfixes3: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not going to be
installed

Taking it a step further and attempting to install x11-common first results
in a rather overwhelming output that looks to my inexperienced eye like
it's going to upgrade a lot of things, install several new things, and
remove a lot of things, among the things being removed it looks like MOST
of the KDE desktop components.

To be honest, All I wanted was to install the Firefox browser and hopefully
to do it the 'right' way by using a package management tool like apt-get or
synaptic, especialy since I haven't seen binary intallers since leaving
windoze behind.  Gutting the system is not something I had in mind.
'sides, I'm just starting to get used to KDE and this thing looks like it
wants to remove it.

(BTW- trying with synaptic to install Firefox resulted in a similarly long
list of changes.  I'm still fairly new to linux and this is just plain too
much at once.)

debian:/# apt-get install x11-common
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-about gnome-desktop-data gnome-games
gnome-games-data gnome-keyring gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-panel-data
kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-misc kdelibs-data libartsc0 libasound2
libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
libavahi-compat-howl0
libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libcamel1.2-6 libcdio6
libcroco3 libcupsys2 libcupsys2-gnutls10 libdbus-1-2 libdbus-glib-1-2
libdmx1 libdrm2 libebook1.2-5 libecal1.2-3 libedataserver1.2-4
libedataserverui1.2-6 libegroupwise1.2-8 libfontenc1 libgconf2-4
libgl1-mesa-glx libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome-menu2
libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomevfs2-0
libgnomevfs2-common
libgnutls13 libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libhal-storage1 libhal1 libice6
libjack0.100.0-0 liblua50 liblualib50 libogg0 libpanel-applet2-0
libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libselinux1
libsepol1 libsm6 libsoup2.2-8 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3
libwnck18 libx11-6 libx11-data libxau6 libxaw7 libxdmcp6 libxext6
libxfixes3
libxfont1 libxi6 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxp6 libxpm4 libxrandr2 libxres1
libxslt1.1 libxt6 libxtrap6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxxf86vm1 python-glade2
python-gmenu python2.3-cairo python2.3-glade2 python2.3-gtk2
python2.3-numeric xbitmaps xcursor-themes xkb-data xlibs xlibs-data
xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740
xserver-xorg-video-i810 xserver-xorg-video-imstt xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-newport
xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-video-rendition
xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-tga
xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vga xserver-xorg-video-via xserver-xorg-video-vmware
xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
Suggested packages:
gnome-system-tools kworldclock libasound2-plugins libgnomevfs2-bin
gnutls-bin ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho ttf-thryomanes ttf-baekmuk
ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp ttf-arphic-gkai00mp
ttf-arphic-bkai00mp librsvg2-bin python-numeric-tutorial gsynaptics
ksynaptics qsynaptics
Recommended packages:
gnome-games-extra-data libgnomevfs2-extra gamin jackd x-ttcidfont-conf
xkeyboard-config
The following packages will be REMOVED
ark artsbuilder dcoprss gdm gksu juk kaboodle kaddressbook kalarm kamera
kandy kappfinder karm kate kaudiocreator kcalc kcharselect kcmlinuz
kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat kde-core kdeadmin kdeadmin-kfile-plugins
kdeartwork kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase kdebase-bin
kdebase-kio-plugins kdegraphics kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs
kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelirc kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data
kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork
kdenetwork-filesharing kdepasswd kdepim kdepim-kfile-plugins
kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesktop kdessh kdeutils kdf
kdict kdvi kedit kfax kfind kfloppy kgamma kget kghostview kgpg
khelpcenter
khexedit kicker kiconedit kitchensync kjots klaptopdaemon kleopatra
klipper
kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmix kmrml knewsticker knode knotes
kolourpaint konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole konsolekalendar kontact
kooka kopete korganizer korn kpackage kpager kpdf kpersonalizer kpf kpilot
kpovmodeler kppp krdc krec kregexpeditor krfb kruler kscd kscreensaver
kscreensaver-xsavers ksim ksirc ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksvg ksync
ksysguard ksysv ktimer ktip ktnef kuickshow kuser kview kviewshell
kwalletmanager kwifimanager kwin libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libdps1
libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-0 libgle3 libkcal2a libkcddb1 libkdenetwork2
libkdepim1 libkgantt0 libkleopatra0a libkonq4 libkpimexchange1
libkpimidentities1 libkscan1 libksieve0 librss1 libxft1 libxine1 mpeglib
nethack-x11 noatun secpolicy x-window-system-core xbase-clients
xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfree86-common
xlibmesa-dri xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu xscreensaver-gl xserver-common
xserver-xfree86 xutils
The following NEW packages will be installed
gconf2-common gnome-menus kdeartwork-emoticons libavahi-client3
libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-compat-howl0 libavahi-glib1
libcamel1.2-6 libcdio6 libcupsys2 libdbus-1-2 libdbus-glib-1-2 libdmx1
libdrm2 libebook1.2-5 libecal1.2-3 libedataserver1.2-4
libedataserverui1.2-6
libegroupwise1.2-8 libfontenc1 libgl1-mesa-glx libgnome-menu2 libgnutls13
libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libhal-storage1 libhal1 libjack0.100.0-0
liblua50 liblualib50 libsepol1 libsoup2.2-8 libwnck18 libx11-data libxau6
libxdmcp6 libxfixes3 libxfont1 libxres1 libxxf86vm1 python-glade2
python-gmenu python2.3-cairo python2.3-glade2 python2.3-gtk2
python2.3-numeric x11-common xbitmaps xcursor-themes xkb-data
xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740
xserver-xorg-video-i810 xserver-xorg-video-imstt xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-newport
xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-video-rendition
xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-tga
xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vga xserver-xorg-video-via xserver-xorg-video-vmware
xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
The following packages will be upgraded:
gconf2 gnome-about gnome-desktop-data gnome-games gnome-games-data
gnome-keyring gnome-panel gnome-panel-data kdeartwork-misc kdelibs-data
libartsc0 libasound2 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libcroco3
libcupsys2-gnutls10 libgconf2-4 libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome-keyring0
libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomevfs2-0
libgnomevfs2-common
libice6 libogg0 libpanel-applet2-0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common
librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libselinux1 libsm6 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2
libvorbisfile3 libx11-6 libxaw7 libxext6 libxi6 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxp6
libxpm4 libxrandr2 libxslt1.1 libxt6 libxtrap6 libxtst6 libxv1 xlibs
xlibs-data
51 upgraded, 92 newly installed, 165 to remove and 366 not upgraded.
Need to get 41.5MB of archives.
After unpacking 273MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.
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On Tue, 02 May 2006 13:42:37 -0500, Edward Langenback wrote:

> debian:/# mount /media/cdrom1
> mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist

Try 'dmesg|grep cdrom'

Does it see the cdrom? It found the cdrom on the install?

> On another note, what's the best way to get firefox installed?
> I tried first with apt-get:

What release are you using?

Try
apt-get update
apt-get install mozilla-firefox

> Taking it a step further and attempting to install x11-common first result
s
> in a rather overwhelming output that looks to my inexperienced eye like
> it's going to upgrade a lot of things, install several new things, and
> remove a lot of things, among the things being removed it looks like MOST
> of the KDE desktop components.


What have you installed?

Have you installed x-window-system or xorg?

After I installed I had to apt-get upgrade or dist upgrade right away. My
halt command, as well as a few others, didn't work until I upgraded. But
that depends on how you installed. I used a netinstall cd with the base
system.

Steve

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Edward Langenback wrote:
> [...]
> debian:/# mount /media/cdrom1
> mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
>

You didn't say what kernel version you are using, but for 2.4.x, your
CD-ROM might be /dev/sr0 (or /media/cdrom0).

Follow SteveSch's advice to find the actual device name, so that you can
be sure.

> On another note, what's the best way to get firefox installed? [...]

Download the latest release version from the mozilla web site and
install that.

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Thanks for taking the time to answer newbie questions..

SteveSch wrote:

> On Tue, 02 May 2006 13:42:37 -0500, Edward Langenback wrote:
> 
>
> Try 'dmesg|grep cdrom'
>
> Does it see the cdrom? It found the cdrom on the install?

No.  It's finding hdb (the 24x cd-rom) allright, but
nothing in dmesg's output refers to hdc which should be the cd-rw.
 
>
> What release are you using?

presuming you mean what release of debian... 3.1 r0a "Sarge" which was the
current 'stable' release when I downloaded the CD

> Try
> apt-get update
> apt-get install mozilla-firefox

That got firefox 1.0.4 working... thanks
 
>
>
> What have you installed?

I started by choosing the 'desktop' package when instaling from the CD.
That seems to have installed both Gnome and KDE desktop environs. I mostly
use KDE, but once in a while Gnome seems better suited.

> Have you installed x-window-system or xorg?

if you mean /etc/X11, yes.

> After I installed I had to apt-get upgrade or dist upgrade right away. My
> halt command, as well as a few others, didn't work until I upgraded. But
> that depends on how you installed. I used a netinstall cd with the base
> system.
>
> Steve

- From what you've said and what I've seen googleing around, in order to use
the latest firefox build (1.0.5.2), I'd apparently have to do some serious
upgrading.

What's the best way to upgrade?  edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to etch
or sid instead of sarge and then apt-get dist-upgrade?



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Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote:

> Edward Langenback wrote: 
>
> You didn't say what kernel version you are using, but for 2.4.x, your
> CD-ROM might be /dev/sr0 (or /media/cdrom0).

using the 2.6.8-2-386 kernel, the cd-rom shows up as /dev/hdb
(or /media/cdrom0), I figured that the cd-rw would appear as /dev/hdc
(or /media/cdrom1)

>
> Follow SteveSch's advice to find the actual device name, so that you can
> be sure.
> 
>
> Download the latest release version from the mozilla web site and
> install that.


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apostle@pokynet.com wrote:
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> Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote:
> 
>
> using the 2.6.8-2-386 kernel, the cd-rom shows up as /dev/hdb
> (or /media/cdrom0), I figured that the cd-rw would appear as /dev/hdc
> (or /media/cdrom1)
> 
>

Does your BIOS see the CDRW (hdc) ? That *must* recognize the drive
first ....Ensure you have selected "AUTO" under "IDE Configuration" for
the Secondary Master (/dev/hdc) in the BIOS.  BTW - I never heard of
'KHyperwhatever' ...lol

I'm running;
~$ uname -a
Linux sarge 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

No problems with CD/DVD R/RW detection;
~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
/dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
1
/dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0

dmesg not showing anything related to hdc ?
~$ dmesg | grep -i hd

Your CDRW is not a SATA drive...is it ?

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iforone wrote:
>  dmesg not showing anything related to hdc ?
> ~$ dmesg | grep -i hd
>
> Your CDRW is not a SATA drive...is it ?

Oh yeah...a few more things;
Make sure you have the drive "jumpered" properly.
MA = Master
SL = Slave
Csel = Cable Select

I believe the question related to X11 is are you using "Xorg" or
"Xfree86"...your kernel version would seem to make it Xfree86 - the
corresponding Config file for XFree86 is;
~$ /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
Precede above command with 'cat' - or 'less' is actually better to view
it from a console.

If for some reason you need to reconfigure the Display (using xfree86
and although I don't see why...or I missed it)..use 'dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xfree86' from console as root.

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iforone wrote:
> iforone wrote: 
>
> Oh yeah...a few more things;
> Make sure you have the drive "jumpered" properly.
> MA = Master
> SL = Slave
> Csel = Cable Select
>
> I believe the question related to X11 is are you using "Xorg" or
> "Xfree86"...your kernel version would seem to make it Xfree86 - the
> corresponding Config file for XFree86 is;
> ~$ /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
> Precede above command with 'cat' - or 'less' is actually better to view
> it from a console.
>
> If for some reason you need to reconfigure the Display (using xfree86
> and although I don't see why...or I missed it)..use 'dpkg-reconfigure
> xserver-xfree86' from console as root.

whoops - Just because I now see you posted "Xorg" stuff earlier;

[ snippit of earlier post by the OP ]

> debian:/# apt-get install x11-common
> Reading package lists... Done
...

(my comments)
If you wanted to install X11 (Xfree86 style), I think instead of
X11-common, you would use as root;
~$ apt-get install x-window-system-core
(/my comments)
[vbcol=seagreen]
>   xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
>   xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
>   xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
>   xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
>   xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirru
s
>   xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbd
ev
>   xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740
>   xserver-xorg-video-i810 xserver-xorg-video-imstt xserver-xorg-video-mga
>   xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-newport
>   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-video-renditio
n
>   xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage[/vbco
l]
....
[ /snippit of earlier post by the OP]

see this for *both* Xorg -or- Xfree86;
[url]http://www.mepislovers-wiki.org/index.php?title=Dpkg-reconfigure_xserver-xorg[/url
]

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On Tue, 02 May 2006 22:46:27 -0500, apostle@pokynet.com wrote:

> What's the best way to upgrade?  edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to et
ch
> or sid instead of sarge and then apt-get dist-upgrade?

Exacatly, maybe use "aptitude dist-upgrade" instead of apt-get;
aptitude is assumed to do a better dependency handling.

gregor
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SteveSch wrote:

> On Tue, 02 May 2006 22:46:27 -0500, apostle wrote:
> 
>
> We were all there at least once.;-)
> 
> 
>
> As iforone said, check your BIOS. When your computer first turns on,
> before it boots, press the delete key, or whatever you need to-to enter
> the BIOS. Check to see if the computer shows both the cdrom and the cdrw.

nope, BIOS not showing the cd-rw.. I checked the ASUS site looking for a
bios upgrade for tx97-xv (rev 1.3) and found upgrades for several other
flavors of tx97-??, but not this one.

snip

> It is possible the cdrw is bad. I had one go bad. Don't really remember
> what it did but it took me a while to figure it out.

it's good, works fine in another machine.

> Are your jumper settings set for cable select or master/slave? I had a
> system that didn't like the cable select settings but worked perfect with
> the master/slave.

in the other machine it's set as slave on primary ide and works
 
>
> After you installed from cd did you do an
>
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade
>
> to get the latest packages from the server?

no, I didn't know to do that until now. I'll have to do that tonight.

snip

> I added a dvd drive to one of my machines. After you get a clue it takes
> about 5 minutes to get it working. I only had 1/2 a clue so it actually
> took me 10 minutes.
>
> Hang in there. It is worth it.

yeah, I think my main problem is a mobo circa 1997 with an equally aincient
Phoenix BIOS that ASUS has apparently seen fit not to update.


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