Any mobiles available now or very soon which will support the SIP protocol?

Thanks

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"!" <..> wrote in message news:1147726876_5@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> Any mobiles available now or very soon which will support the SIP
> protocol?
>
> Thanks
>

Well my N80 has a SIP setting menu item under communications if that's any
help - not sure what it does - is it for VOIP? I have emailed Skype and they
tell my a version for the N80 is under development but would not commit to a
timescale.

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"R.Daneel Olivaw" <no.spam@please.or.else> wrote in message
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> "!" <..> wrote in message news:1147726876_5@sp6iad.superfeed.net... 
>
> Well my N80 has a SIP setting menu item under communications if that's any
> help - not sure what it does - is it for VOIP? I have emailed Skype and
> they tell my a version for the N80 is under development but would not
> commit to a timescale.
>
>

Yep. VoIP.

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R.Daneel Olivaw:
>Well my N80 has a SIP setting menu item under communications if that's any
>help - not sure what it does - is it for VOIP? I have emailed Skype and
>they tell my a version for the N80 is under development but would not
>commit to a timescale.

Skype is just a P2P software application (which obviously need internet
access), incompatible with anything else.

True VoIP / SIP is totally different, allows you to use any VoIP provider,
or even direct connection to any other SIP user if you know the their IP.
Regards,
Martin

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On Tue, 16 May 2006 01:32:16 +0100, "Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote:

>R.Daneel Olivaw: 
>
>Skype is just a P2P software application (which obviously need internet
>access), incompatible with anything else.
>
>True VoIP / SIP is totally different, allows you to use any VoIP provider,
>or even direct connection to any other SIP user if you know the their IP.
>Regards,
>Martin
>
Yes, I can't see Skype being a goer for mobile use via the Net over a
mobile metwork. You only need to look at the cost/MB of data to see
that it would not be cost effective. However, over WiFi that might be
a different situation. However, I agree, Skype is toytown. It works
very  well for what it is but who is interested in waiting for the
computer to boot up every time you want ot make a call. Further, you
are tied to one provider and you can't contact SIP phones except via
PSTN.

Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.

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Martin² wrote:
> R.Daneel Olivaw: 
>
> Skype is just a P2P software application (which obviously need internet
> access), incompatible with anything else.
>
> True VoIP / SIP is totally different, allows you to use any VoIP provider,
> or even direct connection to any other SIP user if you know the their IP.

Skype is VoIP. If you definition of "True VoIP" is SIP, then where do
H.323 and IAX fit in (as examples).

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Adrian wrote:
> Paul Cupis (paul@cupis.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
> 
>
> Personally, I'd say that - yes, Skype is VoIP - but it's a firmly
> proprietary implementation of VoIP - a walled garden.

Yes, I agree.

> "True" VoIP is [snip]

a made up phrase with no useful definition and which we should stop using.

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> Any mobiles available now or very soon which will support the SIP
> protocol?
>
> Thanks

Nokia E60 available now.

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TKD wrote: 
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> nokia E60 available now.
>
Where?? nokia say it hasn't been released yet.

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>>> Any mobiles available now or very soon which will support the SIP 
> Where?? nokia say it hasn't been released yet.

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=126949

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