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    Staging Internet Content on a non CMS server  
Bryan Kiefer


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03-18-04 06:50 PM

Could someone please answer a question for me about CMS?
We currently have the following architecture.  We have
what I refer to as our content development CMS server
where our content authors do all of their content
authoring and this box is inside the firewall.  This
publishes every 3 hours via a script out to our
production CMS web server which sits outside our firewall
and is where we utilize our CMS license.  What I have
been asked to do is to move our license to our content
development CMS server inside the firewall so I can run
the internet and intranet through the CMS server and
stage our internet content to a non CMS server outside
the firewall.  At one time I believe this was what site
stager was for but since that is going away do you know
of anyway I can do this or is this even possible using
CMS 2002?





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    Re: Staging Internet Content on a non CMS server  
Stefan [MSFT]


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03-18-04 06:50 PM

Hi Bryan,

I have written a SiteStaging tool that works with ASP and ASP.NET based
templates.
It is not supported but it works pretty fine on my own projects.

Send me a mail to webmaster@stefan-gossner.de and I will send it to you.
If you have feedback on it (bugs, feature requests) then send them to me. We
can talk about this.

Cheers,
Stefan.

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"Bryan Kiefer" <bryan.kiefer@ky.gov> wrote in message
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> Could someone please answer a question for me about CMS?
> We currently have the following architecture.  We have
> what I refer to as our content development CMS server
> where our content authors do all of their content
> authoring and this box is inside the firewall.  This
> publishes every 3 hours via a script out to our
> production CMS web server which sits outside our firewall
> and is where we utilize our CMS license.  What I have
> been asked to do is to move our license to our content
> development CMS server inside the firewall so I can run
> the internet and intranet through the CMS server and
> stage our internet content to a non CMS server outside
> the firewall.  At one time I believe this was what site
> stager was for but since that is going away do you know
> of anyway I can do this or is this even possible using
> CMS 2002?







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    Re: Staging Internet Content on a non CMS server  
Spencer Harbar


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03-18-04 06:50 PM

you could look at using ISA Server Web Publishing (approx $900 licence) on
the DMZ to reverse proxy your Internet site.

hth
Spence
www.harbar.net/mcms/





"Bryan Kiefer" <bryan.kiefer@ky.gov> wrote in message
news:c1fc01c40850$345f8e60$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> Could someone please answer a question for me about CMS?
> We currently have the following architecture.  We have
> what I refer to as our content development CMS server
> where our content authors do all of their content
> authoring and this box is inside the firewall.  This
> publishes every 3 hours via a script out to our
> production CMS web server which sits outside our firewall
> and is where we utilize our CMS license.  What I have
> been asked to do is to move our license to our content
> development CMS server inside the firewall so I can run
> the internet and intranet through the CMS server and
> stage our internet content to a non CMS server outside
> the firewall.  At one time I believe this was what site
> stager was for but since that is going away do you know
> of anyway I can do this or is this even possible using
> CMS 2002?







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    Re: Staging Internet Content on a non CMS server  
PV


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03-18-04 06:52 PM

"Production CMS web server ... where we utilize our CMS license" - Does that
imply that you only have one CMS license?  My understanding is that you need
a CMS license for your "content development" server as well, and that a
"development" license will not suffice because you are using it to build
production content.

Comments from the experts?


"Bryan Kiefer" <bryan.kiefer@ky.gov> wrote in message
news:c1fc01c40850$345f8e60$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> Could someone please answer a question for me about CMS?
> We currently have the following architecture.  We have
> what I refer to as our content development CMS server
> where our content authors do all of their content
> authoring and this box is inside the firewall.  This
> publishes every 3 hours via a script out to our
> production CMS web server which sits outside our firewall
> and is where we utilize our CMS license.  What I have
> been asked to do is to move our license to our content
> development CMS server inside the firewall so I can run
> the internet and intranet through the CMS server and
> stage our internet content to a non CMS server outside
> the firewall.  At one time I believe this was what site
> stager was for but since that is going away do you know
> of anyway I can do this or is this even possible using
> CMS 2002?







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    Re: Staging Internet Content on a non CMS server  
Stefan [MSFT]


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03-18-04 06:52 PM

That is correct. Only development and testing machines can be run with a
developer license.
Staging and production machines both require a non-developer license.

Cheers,
Stefan.

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"PV" <philipv-REMOVE-TO-REPLY@computronix.com> wrote in message
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> "Production CMS web server ... where we utilize our CMS license" - Does
that
> imply that you only have one CMS license?  My understanding is that you
need
> a CMS license for your "content development" server as well, and that a
> "development" license will not suffice because you are using it to build
> production content.
>
> Comments from the experts?
>
>
> "Bryan Kiefer" <bryan.kiefer@ky.gov> wrote in message
> news:c1fc01c40850$345f8e60$a101280a@phx.gbl... 
>
>







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    Re: Staging Internet Content on a non CMS server  
Adriano


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03-24-04 11:35 PM

Spencer, I'm new to ISA Server but as I've got an ASP.NET CMS site
this would be PERFECT!  Any hints or tips on how to do this?  Are
there any intricacies with using ISA against a CMS site?

We are working with the staging code, but ISA may be a quick way to
get us up & running.
Thanks,
Adriano.

"Spencer Harbar" <spence@harbar.net> wrote in message news:<e8EELqFCEHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP11.p
hx.gbl>...
> you could look at using ISA Server Web Publishing (approx $900 licence) on
> the DMZ to reverse proxy your Internet site.
>
> hth
> Spence
> www.harbar.net/mcms/
>





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    Re: Staging Internet Content on a non CMS server  
Spencer Harbar [MVP]


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03-27-04 01:37 AM

Its reasonably straightforward to set up ISA as a reverse proxy.
This is known as "web publishing" in Microsoft speak!

There is excellent documentation on this which ships as part of the Feature
Pack 1 download:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&DisplayLang=en
(ignore all the VPN/Firewall/SecureID goop - and look at web publishing )

also check out www.isaserver.og


The key benefits of a reverse proxy solution include:
there's no need for punting content about or
worrying about content being out of date

There are two gotchas related to CMS:

1.) ISA includes URLScan - that needs configured to accept CMS style URLs -
although for a read only site this isn't a big issue.
2.) Watch out for links - e.g. if your internal CMS site contains links such
as http://servername/whatever they need to be rewritten on the fly so they
can be used externally (http://www.company.com/whatever )
ISA provides a Link translation dialog, which allows you to set up this
rewriting.

other than these it's a great solution for read only production sites, and a
secure mechanism for publishing 'internal' resources in general.
note you don't need to install ISA in firewall mode to get this
functionality

If you need more on this feel free to email me...
--
hth
Spence
www.harbar.net/mcms/



"Adriano" <AdrianoPeng@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Spencer, I'm new to ISA Server but as I've got an ASP.NET CMS site
> this would be PERFECT!  Any hints or tips on how to do this?  Are
> there any intricacies with using ISA against a CMS site?
>
> We are working with the staging code, but ISA may be a quick way to
> get us up & running.
> Thanks,
> Adriano.
>
> "Spencer Harbar" <spence@harbar.net> wrote in message
> news:<e8EELqFCEHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>... 







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