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07-07-06 06:12 PM
Amayeta Software.
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>I run a search looking for encryption program for protecting SWF files, and
>found many such apps.
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>Can you recommend an encryption that protects well while not affecting the
>proper execution of the file?
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>David Evgey
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07-08-06 06:11 AM
Given enough time anything can be cracked. Modern encryption is dependent on
very fundamental problems of finding discrete logarithms or factoring large
prime numbers.
What makes me suspicious about Amayeta is that they try to equate obfuscate
with encryption, where perhaps steganography would be the more appropriate
description. Moreover, their site seems mostly vanilla, like the phrase
"1000x safer".
Also, this whole decompiler/obfuscation seems like a useless arms race. My
rule of thumb is that if I write anything that is worth stealing in flash,
chances are it will be stolen.
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07-08-06 12:11 PM
Spot on. But obfuscation does help to deter some script kiddies who think
they are oh so clever...
Stefan
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> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Protecting SWF
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> Given enough time anything can be cracked. Modern encryption
> is dependent on very fundamental problems of finding discrete
> logarithms or factoring large prime numbers.
>
> What makes me suspicious about Amayeta is that they try to
> equate obfuscate with encryption, where perhaps steganography
> would be the more appropriate description. Moreover, their
> site seems mostly vanilla, like the phrase "1000x safer".
>
> Also, this whole decompiler/obfuscation seems like a useless
> arms race. My rule of thumb is that if I write anything that
> is worth stealing in flash, chances are it will be stolen.
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07-08-06 12:11 PM
Yes Amayeta and yes it can most likely be cracked. Don't rely on obfuscation
for security. I see it as a deterrent, nothing more.
Stefan
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> In a message dated 7/7/2006 2:40:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org writes:
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>
> Stefan
> 1. are you taking about Amayeta or other solution.
> 2. If Amayeta, what do you mean by " not secure", is there a
> way to crack it?
>
> David Evgey
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07-08-06 12:11 PM
Hi,
You know, I had a bet with a hacker that he couldn't bust a SWF I had
created with the help of FMS. He wasn't an ace hacker, but he was
confident that he could bust any SWF. All I had to do was a server-
side call and sucker punch him with an red-herring variable named
"password." I won the bet, and I don't count security as one of my
strong points.
Cheers,
Bill
On Jul 8, 2006, at 4:37 AM, Stefan Richter wrote:
> Spot on. But obfuscation does help to deter some script kiddies who
> think
> they are oh so clever...
>
> Stefan
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07-10-06 06:11 AM
I consider obfuscation just another security layer. Of course this will not
make my swf's totally secure, but as someone mentioned below, it will discou
rage those script kiddies even further.
----- Original Message ----
From: Bill Sanders <wdsanders-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
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Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2006 11:49:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Protecting SWF
Hi,
You know, I had a bet with a hacker that he couldn't bust a SWF I had
created with the help of FMS. He wasn't an ace hacker, but he was
confident that he could bust any SWF. All I had to do was a server-
side call and sucker punch him with an red-herring variable named
"password." I won the bet, and I don't count security as one of my
strong points.
Cheers,
Bill
On Jul 8, 2006, at 4:37 AM, Stefan Richter wrote:
> Spot on. But obfuscation does help to deter some script kiddies who
> think
> they are oh so clever...
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
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