Where can I find how to use CUPS?  I want to use a Windows Network
printer from a Linux PC using the same router...Any help would be
helpful...of course.. As is probably not surprising, there seems to be
much data available, all of it confusing and not user friendly...
Thanks.
Ron

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"KB" <giu@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:HCyOg.889$Ij.240@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Where can I find how to use CUPS?  I want to use a Windows Network
> printer from a Linux PC using the same router...Any help would be
> helpful...of course.. As is probably not surprising, there seems to be
> much data available, all of it confusing and not user friendly...
> Thanks.
> Ron

Try the following link, it will give several major hints:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html

Interface design in the open-source community SUCKS.  But
there are signs that it is getting better.

Hint on asking questions - do some homework first, then ask a
specific question.  You'll get a lot more feedback.

Just changing your name won't fool anyone.

later,
charles.....

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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:18:15 GMT, KB
<giu@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Where can I find how to use CUPS?  I want to use a Windows Network
> printer from a Linux PC using the same router...Any help would be
> helpful...of course.. As is probably not surprising, there seems to be
> much data available, all of it confusing and not user friendly...
> Thanks.
> Ron

http://localhost:631


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Bill Marcum wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:18:15 GMT, KB
>   <giu@sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
>
> http://localhost:631
>
>
System reports "Could not connect to host localhost (Port 631)"

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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:09:47 GMT, Ron wrote:
 
> System reports "Could not connect to host localhost (Port 631)"

Then your cups daemon is probably not running. Try (as root):
/etc/init.d/cupsys start

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gregor herrmann wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:09:47 GMT, Ron wrote:
> 
>
> Then your cups daemon is probably not running. Try (as root):
> /etc/init.d/cupsys start
>
> gregor
Thank you.
I went to a terminal window, as root, and was unsuccessful in getting this
string to do anything. I tried all sorts of things...My machine is named
Linux..I see the CUPS in the etc directory.  I tried to get it started...I
think I have to read up much much more on CUPS...I spent all day on this...
The only result I obtained was:

Linux:/etc# init cups
Usage: init 0123456SsQqAaBbCcUu

I entered "init cups", and the second line was returned.  Nothing else I
tried was recognized.  I have a thick Linux book on order, and maybe I will
have to wade through it...I am finding that Debian installed easily, and my
browser, email, and newsgroups are working fine.  I am experiencing the fun
I heard about regarding printers on Linux.  But I will persevere.
Thanks...

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on Saturday 16 September 2006 10:46 pm, giu@sbcglobal.net (Ron) wrote:

> gregor herrmann wrote:
> 
> Thank you.
> I went to a terminal window, as root, and was unsuccessful in getting this
> string to do anything. I tried all sorts of things...My machine is named
> Linux..I see the CUPS in the etc directory.  I tried to get it started...I
> think I have to read up much much more on CUPS...I spent all day on
> this...

What does ls /etc/init.d/cup* show?

What errors if any were you seeing from doing:

# /etc/init.d/cupsys start

?  Does the file actually exist?  Additionally, for more details,  you
shouuld be able to say:

# sh -x /etc/init.d/cupsys start

> The only result I obtained was:
>
> Linux:/etc# init cups
> Usage: init 0123456SsQqAaBbCcUu
>
> I entered "init cups", and the second line was returned.  Nothing else I
> tried was recognized.  I have a thick Linux book on order, and maybe I
> will have to wade through it...I am finding that Debian installed easily,
> and my browser, email, and newsgroups are working fine.  I am experiencing
> the fun I heard about regarding printers on Linux.  But I will persevere.

init is the basic program that runs all of Linux/Unix.  the init command as
you typed it allows you to change the run level - to one of those specified
in the usage statement.  You cannot start up a subsystem (like cups) via the
init command.

> Thanks...

jerry
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Jerry Heyman wrote:

> on Saturday 16 September 2006 10:46 pm, giu@sbcglobal.net (Ron) wrote:
> 
>
> What does ls /etc/init.d/cup* show?
>
> What errors if any were you seeing from doing:
>
> # /etc/init.d/cupsys start
>
> ?  Does the file actually exist?  Additionally, for more details,  you
> shouuld be able to say:
>
> # sh -x /etc/init.d/cupsys start
> 
>
> init is the basic program that runs all of Linux/Unix.  the init command
> as you typed it allows you to change the run level - to one of those
> specified
> in the usage statement.  You cannot start up a subsystem (like cups) via
> the init command.
> 
>
> jerry
Thank you Jerry.
Well, I looked at the CUPS directory in the etc directory, and the only file
in there is "client.cont".  So it seems I have to actually obtain the CUPS
files....Is this right?

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Jerry Heyman wrote:

> on Saturday 16 September 2006 10:46 pm, giu@sbcglobal.net (Ron) wrote:
> 
>
> What does ls /etc/init.d/cup* show?
>

It shows "No such file or directory"

How should I go about obtaining the CUPS files? I thought they would be on
the Debian distribution.....

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Ron wrote:
> Jerry Heyman wrote:
> 

...
[vbcol=seagreen] 
>
> It shows "No such file or directory"

Then you prob. hasn't a cups server installed.  So you need to install
it.
If you check with command "ls /etc/cups" and doesn't see a file
"cupsd.conf" there, you don't have the server installed.  If you don't
see "printers.conf" there, you don't have a cups client installed
either.

try
sudo aptitude install cupsys
and you probobly get everything you need.

> How should I go about obtaining the CUPS files? I thought they would be on
> the Debian distribution.....

Yes, they are.  It isn't installed by default, unless you tell Debian
to do it.  Good, isn't it ;-)

Good Luck

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