Ivor Please Ignore - I am not advertising TMobile.

I am interested in VOIP over mobile networks.  Previously i didn't
consider GPRS to be fast enough for voip access.

3g seemed too expensive and unworthwhile.  However Tmobile have released
a new product.  10GB cap =A322.50 p/m
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/0...le_voip_tariff/

This, in my opinion has made VOIP over mobile viable.  Has anybody else
looked into this?  I reckon conventional mobiles wouldn't really support
it, but PDA's might - with the right software.

Has anybody any experience with PDA's, VOIP and 3G?

The 3g connection would have to be constant to accept incoming calls, is
this possible with PDA's?  Can you easily VPN into a VOIP PBX?

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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:40:42 GMT, Daviey
<daviey.walker@virginSPAM.network> wrote:

>Ivor Please Ignore - I am not advertising TMobile.
Why bother Ivor don't own this group although he thinks he does
you only need to just whisper the name of a company and he will accuse
you of being a spammer.
Damn the man .

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Your out of luck.

I think you will find that T mobile have placed a ban on all VoIP
activited accross their network


See this report:
http://ukvoiptalk.com/viewtopic.php...ghlight=tmobile
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M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:40:42 GMT, Daviey
> <daviey.walker@virginSPAM.network> wrote:
> 
> Why bother Ivor don't own this group although he thinks he does
> you only need to just whisper the name of a company and he will accuse
> you of being a spammer.
> Damn the man .

Ivor will not bite.  He is above that.  He is finding inner peace.

Now then, may I help you with anything?

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On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 15:41 +0000, mattpark wrote:
> Your out of luck.
>
> I think you will find that T mobile have placed a ban on all VoIP
> activited accross their network
>
>
> See this report:
> http://ukvoiptalk.com/viewtopic.php...ghlight=tmobile
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> External Post from http://ukvoiptalk.com

I have been watching that closely but the link in my original posting
says that they have dropped it.

But to be honest, if you could route it through a VPN then they could
not stop you using VOIP as they would have no way of knowing.

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Daviey wrote:
> Ivor Please Ignore - I am not advertising TMobile.
>
> I am interested in VOIP over mobile networks.  Previously i didn't
> consider GPRS to be fast enough for voip access.
>
> 3g seemed too expensive and unworthwhile.  However Tmobile have released
> a new product.  10GB cap =A322.50 p/m
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/0...le_voip_tariff/
>

If you want to make *lots* of VoIP calls it could be worth your while.
Bear in mind that this is on top of your monthly rental so for less
total money you could have 900 inclusive minutes on flext price plan
anyway.

Exactly how many minutes you would get in 10GB would vary according to
protocol and compression used but I think you would need the phone
pretty much stuck to your ear to see any real cost benefit. Which is
presumably what T-Mobile are banking on - the mobile operators are
generally about as keen on replacing voice calls with VoIP as turkeys
are on Xmas.

>
> The 3g connection would have to be constant to accept incoming calls, is
> this possible with PDA's?  Can you easily VPN into a VOIP PBX?

I suggest that tunneling any VoIP protocol is not for the
faint-hearted, the simpler tunneling techniques do not work with UDP.
Setting up VPN from a PDA to a server is going to depend on your PDA,
your server and very probably what switches/routers you have between
them.

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Nic

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:46:17 +0100, "cybuerke"
<cybuerke@PLMgooglemail.com> wrote:


>Now then, may I help you with anything?
Yes tell me how to get a certain useless voip provider stopped from
offering its services in the UK .

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On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 19:38 +0000, M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:46:17 +0100, "cybuerke"
> <cybuerke@PLMgooglemail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Yes tell me how to get a certain useless voip provider stopped from
> offering its services in the UK .

Dex, comments like that really don't help you!  Personally i use
Sipgate, but disagree with Ivor's unrelenting 'selling' of it.
Especially if somebody else mentions a company he flames them as
spamming.

However, you really shouldn't make digs you above, as it adds substance
to his argument.

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<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
 news:94cdi29pbf5amlvmssk5592b9k47c67hrf@
4ax.com...
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:46:17 +0100, "cybuerke"
> <cybuerke@PLMgooglemail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Yes tell me how to get a certain useless voip provider stopped from
> offering its services in the UK .

That's an easy one.  It's called market forces.  Ask a Gossiptel subscriber.
A lame duck will eventually be gobbled up by the predators.  Keep an eye on
Vonage's share price if you intend to stay with them for more than a few
months.

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Daviey wrote:

>
> Nic, thank you for taking the time to post your comments.  However, the
> real attraction to this new service is that it appears to be purely a
> data bundle as it mentions on the link i originally posted: "It'll cost
> consumer punters =A322.50 as a standalone product and =A344 for suits, who
> get voice bundled in."
>

I just had another look at the T-Mobile site and I suspect el-reg was
reporting PR fluff that turned out not quite to match reality. The
tariffs are now up and appear to be:

For a datacard only the cost is =A344 per month for the big bundle.
To have it on a phone of any sort it will cost =A357.50 for the VoIP
enabled package.

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatche...webnwalk_laptop

Broadly comparable with other operators then.

As the Register reported its only the -Max version that seems to permit
VoIP, expect it to be blocked on other tariffs. Whether you can evade
their blocks is down to your ingenuity I suppose 

--
Nic

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