Hey Guys,

I've been busy trying to code RPMS, so I can automate
my OS installs, and then came across this:

http://www.jpackage.org/

They have these goals:

*   To provide a coherent set of Java software
packages for Linux, satisfying all quality
requirements of other applications.
* To establish an efficient and robust policy for
Java software packaging and installation.


Tomcat and maven are among packages provided already.

Also this might help with Solaris packaging:

http://www.openpkg.org/

If ADS is a jpackaged installing is as easy as

yum install ads....

I know Fedora uses JPackages already and I'm sure many
other Linux distributions do as well.

I'm working on understanding the tomcat jpackage right
now, and I'll take a look at the ADS rpm after.

Oh - Incidentally the Tomcat rpm complies with this:

http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/

I imagine doing the same for ADS would be a good
thing.

Cheers,
- Ole



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Ole Ersoy wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> I've been busy trying to code RPMS, so I can automate
> my OS installs, and then came across this:
>
> http://www.jpackage.org/
>
> They have these goals:
>
>     *   To provide a coherent set of Java software
> packages for Linux, satisfying all quality
> requirements of other applications.
>     * To establish an efficient and robust policy for
> Java software packaging and installation.
>
>
> Tomcat and maven are among packages provided already.
>
> Also this might help with Solaris packaging:
>
> http://www.openpkg.org/
>
> If ADS is a jpackaged installing is as easy as
>
> yum install ads....
>
> I know Fedora uses JPackages already and I'm sure many
> other Linux distributions do as well.
>
> I'm working on understanding the tomcat jpackage right
> now, and I'll take a look at the ADS rpm after.
>
> Oh - Incidentally the Tomcat rpm complies with this:
>
> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/
>
> I imagine doing the same for ADS would be a good
> thing.

Absolutely!

Right now the current RPM we have is a mess.  We need some people to
step up and help us put things in order.

Plus we don't have solaris pkgs which are really nice to have.

Thanks,
Alex

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Guys, this seems to be a perfect tool for us !

The licience is compatible ( "For packages containing solely software
licensed under the GPL, LGPL, BSD/MIT (without the "advertising clause"), or
Apache Software Foundation licenses, the packaging work is licensed under
the same license as the software itself."), and some of our users need a RPM
which works (Bastiaan).

Ole, if you want any help, I'm your man ! (and we can also provide a debian
install).

Emmanuel

On 10/24/06, Alex Karasulu <aok123-Bdlq13kUjeyLZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Ole Ersoy wrote: 
>
> Absolutely!
>
> Right now the current RPM we have is a mess.  We need some people to
> step up and help us put things in order.
>
> Plus we don't have solaris pkgs which are really nice to have.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>


-- 
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny

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This is a pretty good suggestion. I have been using JPackage for a
while and it works nice. But we need man-power for this stuff, as
usual 

On 10/23/06, Ole Ersoy <ole_ersoy-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> I've been busy trying to code RPMS, so I can automate
> my OS installs, and then came across this:
>
> http://www.jpackage.org/
>
> They have these goals:
>
>     *   To provide a coherent set of Java software
> packages for Linux, satisfying all quality
> requirements of other applications.
>     * To establish an efficient and robust policy for
> Java software packaging and installation.
>
>
> Tomcat and maven are among packages provided already.
>
> Also this might help with Solaris packaging:
>
> http://www.openpkg.org/
>
> If ADS is a jpackaged installing is as easy as
>
> yum install ads....
>
> I know Fedora uses JPackages already and I'm sure many
> other Linux distributions do as well.
>
> I'm working on understanding the tomcat jpackage right
> now, and I'll take a look at the ADS rpm after.
>
> Oh - Incidentally the Tomcat rpm complies with this:
>
> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/
>
> I imagine doing the same for ADS would be a good
> thing.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ole
>
>
>
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Getting an ADS RPM that follows JPackage standards is
one of my top priorities, so hopefully we will have
one soon.

Cheers,
- Ole

--- Ersin Er <ersin.er-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> This is a pretty good suggestion. I have been using
> JPackage for a
> while and it works nice. But we need man-power for
> this stuff, as
> usual 
>
> On 10/23/06, Ole Ersoy <ole_ersoy-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
 wrote: 
> automate 
> for 
> already. 
> many 
> right 
> this: 
> protection around 
>
>
> --
> Ersin
>


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Awesome!

I'm really impressed with what I've seen inside the
Tomcat Spec file so far.

I'm reading all this RPM stuff right now:

http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/drafts/rpm-guide-en/
http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/RPM-HOWTO/build.html
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-rpm1/
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-rpm2/

As well as this regular expression stuff:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html

And this sed stuff:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html

(I gotta get these into the how to help docs - Or if
JPackage lists them, we can just cross link)

JPackage uses sed and regular expressions a lot, so I
have to get up to speed on that.

I'll send out a note when I have grip on their
processes and how I think the ADS RPM maps to it.

Oh - JPackages compile the source, so we need to
re-compile inside the RPM.

OK - Back to Reading the Tomcat spec.

Cheers,
- Ole




--- Emmanuel Lecharny <elecharny-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wr
ote:

> Guys, this seems to be a perfect tool for us !
>
> The licience is compatible ( "For packages
> containing solely software
> licensed under the GPL, LGPL, BSD/MIT (without the
> "advertising clause"), or
> Apache Software Foundation licenses, the packaging
> work is licensed under
> the same license as the software itself."), and some
> of our users need a RPM
> which works (Bastiaan).
>
> Ole, if you want any help, I'm your man ! (and we
> can also provide a debian
> install).
>
> Emmanuel
>
> On 10/24/06, Alex Karasulu <aok123-Bdlq13kUjeyLZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org
>
> wrote: 
> automate 
> software 
> policy for 
> already. 
> sure many 
> right 
> this: 
> need some people to 
> nice to have. 
>
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
>


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