I don't think it's your fault Louis (unless of course you were at CIPTUG! ;)
.....There were plenty of NDA sessions to talk about stuff like this, and q
uite honestly, it's the place to talk about it rather than misdirect people 
to another product. It's hard not to believe that it is intentional sometime
s.

But it's almost Friday..... ;)

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Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Louis Marascio (lmarasci) 
To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; Justin Steinberg ; Steve Miller 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's House - Notesfo
rSetup!


Lelio,

I'm sorry the messaging got confused after the acquisition.  The original Ph
oneProxy product (called SCCP Proxy) that we built at Metreos was based on t
he CUAE.  Prior to the acquisition, we at Metreos had started to rebuild thi
s product as a standalone appliance.  It has taken us some time after the ac
quisition to finish the integration, and thus finish the product.  The produ
ct is indeed going to be available from Cisco, as a standalone appliance no 
longer based on or tied to the CUAE. In fact, it is orderable as of today! 

Again, sorry for the confusion.  

Best regards,

Louis



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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck
.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:47 AM
To: Justin Steinberg; Steve Miller
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's House - Notesfo
rSetup!


it's so frustrating when you ask about a product you know is there and you g
et told it's no longer available. 

i'm pretty sure this was the Metreos product and i was told the product no l
onger exists and was being replaced by the app engine and you had to write i
t yourself!

grrrrrrrr

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Justin Steinberg 
To: Steve Miller 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's House - Notes f
orSetup!


If you are planning to deploy a lot of these setups you should ask your SE a
bout the phone proxy product.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7057/index.html 




On 10/25/06, Steve Miller <millerman1@cox.net> wrote: 
The following is information that I have rec'd regarding the installation of
 a 7961 at someone's house who is using cable or DSL.  Is there anything els
e that we might need to think about?  Thank you!

Notes from cisco Engineer:

The remote equipment at the home office would consist of a cisco 871 router 
and a cisco phone with a power block.  The cisco 871 would function as the h
ome office's firewall and router (and would connect to either a cable modem 
or a DSL modem depending on the site).  The router would be configured to ha
ve an IPSec tunnel back to the office network (most likely configured off of
 your existing concentrator).  The remote cisco 871 would be configured with
 DHCP and have the TFTP scope option set to tell all devices the IP address 
of the Call Manager server (note the router has a built-in four port switch)
.
At that point, the IP Phone would register normally to the Call Manager serv
ers using the IPSec tunnel as it's communication path.  The keepalives from 
the phone to the CM servers would keep the IPSec tunnel up and running 24/7.

The restrictions on this type of deployment are:

-must use G729 codec due to bandwidth restrictions

-extremely limited QoS control since we are going across the Internet

-security policies need to be visited since the remote office would have acc
ess to the corporate internal network (this one is a biggie)

-sub-issue regarding calling from home office to home office.  This is doabl
e but adds additional security and deployment issues.

-need to consider the standard IT management overhead associated with suppor
ting home equipment.



Thank you!




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