I'm gonna try making this short.

Scheme is:

NetApp-----[FC]----->Switch---[FC]----->Tape Library
Media Server------[FC]--^

Real scheme is bigger, just more NetApps.

Tape Library is Adic Scalar i2000, with 6 LTO-2 drives. There are 2 FC
blades. Two FCs connect each one to the switch.
Switch zoned, so all netapps see all 6 tape drives. (sysconfig -t dumps
drives list, last drive has index 5)
Media server is running Veritas Netbackup 6.
There is network, and all hosts are accessible from each other.

Now, the project is to make backups for netapps and some clients around
network.

I defined a storage unit in veritas, along with NDMP hosts, and started
backup. Speed is about 700Kbit/s from netapp. Media server gets the
data from NetApp, and sends it to the tape drive over the fiber channel
connection.

Probably, I misconfigured something here. It supposed to be all over FC
connection, without loading up ethernet, and much faster too.

Any ideas?

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On 21 Dec 2006 14:34:38 -0800, mike.belov@gmail.com wrote:

>I'm gonna try making this short.
>
>Scheme is:
>
>NetApp-----[FC]----->Switch---[FC]----->Tape Library
>Media Server------[FC]--^
>
>Real scheme is bigger, just more NetApps.
>
>Tape Library is Adic Scalar i2000, with 6 LTO-2 drives. There are 2 FC
>blades. Two FCs connect each one to the switch.
>Switch zoned, so all netapps see all 6 tape drives. (sysconfig -t dumps
>drives list, last drive has index 5)
>Media server is running Veritas Netbackup 6.
>There is network, and all hosts are accessible from each other.
>
>Now, the project is to make backups for netapps and some clients around
>network.
>
>I defined a storage unit in veritas, along with NDMP hosts, and started
>backup. Speed is about 700Kbit/s from netapp. Media server gets the
>data from NetApp, and sends it to the tape drive over the fiber channel
>connection.
>
>Probably, I misconfigured something here. It supposed to be all over FC
>connection, without loading up ethernet, and much faster too.
>
>Any ideas?

THis may have changed in NBU somewhere along the line but last I
recall each NDMP server had ot have it's own dedicated STU or at least
drive.

~F

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Hi!

That's a good point. Before I changed everything, each netapp was
attached to its dedicated drive. But number of Netapps is growing and
I'm running of the drives. There is gotta be "shared storage option"!

Any ideas?


Faeandar wrote:
> On 21 Dec 2006 14:34:38 -0800, mike.belov@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>
> THis may have changed in NBU somewhere along the line but last I
> recall each NDMP server had ot have it's own dedicated STU or at least
> drive.
>
> ~F

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On 21 Dec 2006 19:04:04 -0800, "Mike" <mike.belov@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi!
>
>That's a good point. Before I changed everything, each netapp was
>attached to its dedicated drive. But number of Netapps is growing and
>I'm running of the drives. There is gotta be "shared storage option"!
>
>Any ideas?

Well, like I said, when I was doing this the talk of SSO for NDMP was
out there but AFAIK it never materialized.

I manage a few filers but do not manage the backups.  And if SSO
existed I'm sure they would have mentioned it...

~F
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
>Faeandar wrote: 

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SSO is real and available in NBU 6.0.

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Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS
VP Data Protection
GlassHouse Technologies


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[mailto:comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:21 AM
To: comp.arch.storage@backupcentral.com
Subject: Re: [C.A.S.] NetApp NDMP backup runs over ethernet not FC!

On 21 Dec 2006 19:04:04 -0800, "Mike" <mike.belov@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi!
>
>That's a good point. Before I changed everything, each netapp was
>attached to its dedicated drive. But number of Netapps is growing and
>I'm running of the drives. There is gotta be "shared storage option"!
>
>Any ideas?

Well, like I said, when I was doing this the talk of SSO for NDMP was
out there but AFAIK it never materialized.

I manage a few filers but do not manage the backups.  And if SSO
existed I'm sure they would have mentioned it...

~F
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
>Faeandar wrote: 
FC[vbcol=seagreen] 
dumps[vbcol=seagreen] 
around[vbcol=seagreen] 
started[vbcol=seagreen] 
channel[vbcol=seagreen] 
FC[vbcol=seagreen] 
least[vbcol=seagreen] 

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Faeandar wrote:
> On 21 Dec 2006 19:04:04 -0800, "Mike" <mike.belov@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>
> Well, like I said, when I was doing this the talk of SSO for NDMP was
> out there but AFAIK it never materialized.
>
> I manage a few filers but do not manage the backups.  And if SSO
> existed I'm sure they would have mentioned it...
>
> ~F
>
>

It's not really my field, but shared storage option does seem to exist
for NBU 6 now.


http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/...vid=2_1&aoid=65


Pete

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:50:04 -0500, "Curtis Preston"
<cpreston@glasshouse.com> wrote:

>SSO is real and available in NBU 6.0.

For NDMP backups?

~F

>
>---
>W. Curtis Preston
>Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS
>VP Data Protection
>GlassHouse Technologies
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com
>[mailto:comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com] On Behalf Of
>Faeandar
>Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:21 AM
>To: comp.arch.storage@backupcentral.com
>Subject: Re: [C.A.S.] NetApp NDMP backup runs over ethernet not FC!
>
>On 21 Dec 2006 19:04:04 -0800, "Mike" <mike.belov@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>
>Well, like I said, when I was doing this the talk of SSO for NDMP was
>out there but AFAIK it never materialized.
>
>I manage a few filers but do not manage the backups.  And if SSO
>existed I'm sure they would have mentioned it...
>
>~F
> 
>FC 
>dumps 
>around 
>started 
>channel 
>FC 
>least 
>
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Yes.

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Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS
VP Data Protection
GlassHouse Technologies


-----Original Message-----
From: comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com
[mailto:comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 4:52 PM
To: comp.arch.storage@backupcentral.com
Subject: Re: [C.A.S.] NetApp NDMP backup runs over ethernet not FC!

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:50:04 -0500, "Curtis Preston"
<cpreston@glasshouse.com> wrote:

>SSO is real and available in NBU 6.0.

For NDMP backups?

~F

>
>---
>W. Curtis Preston
>Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS
>VP Data Protection
>GlassHouse Technologies
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com
>[mailto:comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com] On Behalf Of
>Faeandar
>Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:21 AM
>To: comp.arch.storage@backupcentral.com
>Subject: Re: [C.A.S.] NetApp NDMP backup runs over ethernet not FC!
>
>On 21 Dec 2006 19:04:04 -0800, "Mike" <mike.belov@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>
>Well, like I said, when I was doing this the talk of SSO for NDMP was
>out there but AFAIK it never materialized.
>
>I manage a few filers but do not manage the backups.  And if SSO
>existed I'm sure they would have mentioned it...
>
>~F
> 
>FC 
>dumps 
>around 
>started 
>channel 
over[vbcol=seagreen]
>FC 
>least 
>
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I got it working. Veritas compains that I don't have CSO license, we're
looking forward to get it.

I see activity on brocade switch, that traffic goes from netapp FC
interface and hits the ADIC FC interface.

Another problem appers to be - very slow speed of backup. First 300 Mb
- 15 Mb/s, then whole process stalls for 1-2 hours, then it goes with
200-500 Kb/s.

Any ideas on this one?


Curtis Preston wrote:
> Yes.
>
> ---
> W. Curtis Preston
> Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS
> VP Data Protection
> GlassHouse Technologies
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com
> [mailto:comp.arch.storage-bounces@backupcentral.com] On Behalf Of
> Faeandar
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 4:52 PM
> To: comp.arch.storage@backupcentral.com
> Subject: Re: [C.A.S.] NetApp NDMP backup runs over ethernet not FC!
>
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:50:04 -0500, "Curtis Preston"
> <cpreston@glasshouse.com> wrote:
> 
>
> For NDMP backups?
>
> ~F
> 
> over 
> a 
>
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