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12-23-06 06:11 AM
Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the difference bet
ween MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available with one or the othe
r?
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12-23-06 06:11 AM
Over satellite links, I'm told that MGCP has faster call setup. When one
has to do down and dirty call troubleshooting, I'm told that H.323 is an
absolute winner. Well perhaps, I can say from first hand experience. And
with H.323, gateway diagnostics are much better, when you get into a bind.
I've got a few tools at http://www.oneunified.net/blog/Cisco/index.blog that
are based upon the H.323 experience. And based upon a few tricks of the
peer-mask trade, I much prefer the H.323 route when configuring voice
gateways.
Yes, I'm biased. I look forward to hearing from those that are MGCP biased.
Probably
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer...iguration_guide
09186a0080565f8a.html gets you close to the documentation you request.
Ray.
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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 23:00
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the difference
between MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available with one or the
other?
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(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
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12-23-06 06:11 AM
All I can say is that MGCP is almost moron proof (no offense) for simply
installations. But H323 on the other hand lends to much more
flexibility/features, which also lends to more complex configurations
and know how.
Jason Wydra
Berbee
Cisco Voice Engineer
8725 West Higgins Road, Suite 700
Chicago, Il. 60631
IP phone 773.867.6084
Cell 630-209-9792
Jason.Wydra@berbee.com
www.berbee.com
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ray Burkholder
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:26 PM
To: 'Lelio Fulgenzi'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Over satellite links, I'm told that MGCP has faster call setup. When
one has to do down and dirty call troubleshooting, I'm told that H.323
is an absolute winner. Well perhaps, I can say from first hand
experience. And with H.323, gateway diagnostics are much better, when
you get into a bind. I've got a few tools at
http://www.oneunified.net/blog/Cisco/index.blog that are based upon the
H.323 experience. And based upon a few tricks of the peer-mask trade, I
much prefer the H.323 route when configuring voice gateways.
Yes, I'm biased. I look forward to hearing from those that are MGCP
biased.
Probably
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer...configuration_g
uide09186a0080565f8a.html gets you close to the documentation you
request.
Ray.
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 23:00
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the
difference between MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available
with one or the other?
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. Network Analyst (CCS)
University of Guelph Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
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12-23-06 06:11 AM
I think it really comes down to CallManager not being able to take full
advantage of the gateway IOS capabilities when using MGCP. I think Cisco
is doing a good job of maturing the protocol, but...... at this point,
complex installations usually need H323. Just my 2 cents...
Jason Wydra
Berbee
Cisco Voice Engineer
8725 West Higgins Road, Suite 700
Chicago, Il. 60631
IP phone 773.867.6084
Cell 630-209-9792
Jason.Wydra@berbee.com
www.berbee.com
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Wydra, Jason
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:12 PM
To: Ray Burkholder; Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
All I can say is that MGCP is almost moron proof (no offense) for simply
installations. But H323 on the other hand lends to much more
flexibility/features, which also lends to more complex configurations
and know how.
Jason Wydra
Berbee
Cisco Voice Engineer
8725 West Higgins Road, Suite 700
Chicago, Il. 60631
IP phone 773.867.6084
Cell 630-209-9792
Jason.Wydra@berbee.com
www.berbee.com
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ray Burkholder
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:26 PM
To: 'Lelio Fulgenzi'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Over satellite links, I'm told that MGCP has faster call setup. When
one has to do down and dirty call troubleshooting, I'm told that H.323
is an absolute winner. Well perhaps, I can say from first hand
experience. And with H.323, gateway diagnostics are much better, when
you get into a bind. I've got a few tools at
http://www.oneunified.net/blog/Cisco/index.blog that are based upon the
H.323 experience. And based upon a few tricks of the peer-mask trade, I
much prefer the H.323 route when configuring voice gateways.
Yes, I'm biased. I look forward to hearing from those that are MGCP
biased.
Probably
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer...configuration_g
uide09186a0080565f8a.html gets you close to the documentation you
request.
Ray.
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 23:00
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the
difference between MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available
with one or the other?
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. Network Analyst (CCS)
University of Guelph Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
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12-23-06 06:11 PM
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the difference
> between MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available with one or
> the other?
H.323 supports call preservation going in and out of SRST mode.
H.323 supports digit manipulation on calling / called number for inbound
and outbound calls.
MGCP has caller name and caller ID delivery to the phone; H.323 will
only deliver caller ID.
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12-23-06 06:11 PM
Robert,
Check out the attachment. not entirely my compilation,
Hope this helps.
Merry Christmas !
Aman
On 12/23/06, Robert Kulagowski <bob@smalltime.com> wrote:
>
> Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> H.323 supports call preservation going in and out of SRST mode.
> H.323 supports digit manipulation on calling / called number for inbound
> and outbound calls.
> MGCP has caller name and caller ID delivery to the phone; H.323 will
> only deliver caller ID.
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12-24-06 12:11 AM
I think you hit the nail on the head. This is exactly what I told management
after reviewing our 6608 deployment. It's just point and click.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wydra, Jason
To: Ray Burkholder ; Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
All I can say is that MGCP is almost moron proof (no offense) for simply ins
tallations. But H323 on the other hand lends to much more flexibility/featur
es, which also lends to more complex configurations and know how.
Jason Wydra
Berbee
Cisco Voice Engineer
8725 West Higgins Road, Suite 700
Chicago, Il. 60631
IP phone 773.867.6084
Cell 630-209-9792
Jason.Wydra@berbee.com
www.berbee.com
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck
.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ray Burkholder
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:26 PM
To: 'Lelio Fulgenzi'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Over satellite links, I'm told that MGCP has faster call setup. When one has to do dow
n and dirty call troubleshooting, I'm told that H.323 is an absolute winner. Well perh
aps, I can say from first hand experience. And with H.323, gateway diagnostics are m
uch better, when you get into a bind. I've got a few tools at http://www.oneunifi
ed.net/blog/Cisco/index.blog that are based upon the H.323 experience. And
based upon a few tricks of the peer-mask trade, I much prefer the H.323 rout
e when configuring voice gateways.
Yes, I'm biased. I look forward to hearing from those that are MGCP biased.
Probably http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer...0080565f8a.html gets you close to the documentation you request.
Ray.
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck
.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 23:00
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the difference bet
ween MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available with one or the othe
r?
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. Network Analyst (CCS)
University of Guelph Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
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12-24-06 12:11 AM
Thanks - those are good to know. However, everything I read said MGCP does n
ot support callerID on FXO ports.
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From: Robert Kulagowski
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the difference
> between MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available with one or
> the other?
H.323 supports call preservation going in and out of SRST mode.
H.323 supports digit manipulation on calling / called number for inbound
and outbound calls.
MGCP has caller name and caller ID delivery to the phone; H.323 will
only deliver caller ID.
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https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
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12-24-06 12:11 AM
CallerID is not supported on FXO via MGCP. Essentially the reverse of
Caller name with H.323. Kinda screwed either way ;-)
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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 4:22 PM
To: Robert Kulagowski; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Thanks - those are good to know. However, everything I read said MGCP does
not support callerID on FXO ports.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert <mailto:bob@smalltime.com> Kulagowski
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the difference
> between MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available with one or
> the other?
H.323 supports call preservation going in and out of SRST mode.
H.323 supports digit manipulation on calling / called number for inbound
and outbound calls.
MGCP has caller name and caller ID delivery to the phone; H.323 will
only deliver caller ID.
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https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
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12-24-06 12:11 AM
This is an excellent document - too bad cisco doesn't have anything like thi
s.
Can I have a router using MGCP on some ports and H323 on others?
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From: Aman Chugh
To: Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] MGCP vs H323?
Robert,
Check out the attachment. not entirely my compilation,
Hope this helps.
Merry Christmas !
Aman
On 12/23/06, Robert Kulagowski <bob@smalltime.com> wrote:
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> Anyone have any pointers to a cisco document that explain the difference
> between MGCP and H323? Namely, what features are available with one or
> the other?
H.323 supports call preservation going in and out of SRST mode.
H.323 supports digit manipulation on calling / called number for inbound
and outbound calls.
MGCP has caller name and caller ID delivery to the phone; H.323 will
only deliver caller ID.
________________________________________
_______
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
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