This is so frustrating.  I have many hundreds of bookmarks in many dozens of
folders.  I want to find one bookmark, so I do a search.  I have three
serious gripes with the search:

One, the search bar is permanent up there, taking all that vertical space,
going unused 99% of the time.  What an annoying waste of space!

Two, the search narrows everything down in a fashion similar to the filter
in about:config.  This is nerve-wracking!  Why not just go to the first
match, then f3 leads to the second match, and so forth?  Why make all of the
*other* bookmarks and the tree structure and everything disappear?!?!?!
That is SO ugly!

But worst of all, three:  I can't tell where the bookmark is at.  I can't
*find* it.  Oh sure, I can click it and it will send Firefox to the target
URL.  But where is the bookmark itself?  It's buried four levels deep
somewhere, and I can't find it.  When I select it, it doesn't show in the
tree on the left.  When I check the properties, it tells me nothing about
where the bookmark actually is.  If I want to find it, I have to manually go
digging through hundreds of bookmarks, weaving my way up and down every
single branch of the entire tree, until I come across it.  This is very,
very bad.  What good is Search when it doesn't Find?

Am I missing something?

J.

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"Janice P." <none@nowhere.domain> wrote in message
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>
> This is so frustrating.  I have many hundreds of bookmarks in many
dozens of
> folders.  I want to find one bookmark, so I do a search.  I have three
> serious gripes with the search:
>
> One, the search bar is permanent up there, taking all that vertical
space,
> going unused 99% of the time.  What an annoying waste of space!
>
> Two, the search narrows everything down in a fashion similar to the
filter
> in about :config.  This is nerve-wracking!  Why not just go to the
first
> match, then f3 leads to the second match, and so forth?  Why make all
of the
> *other* bookmarks and the tree structure and everything
disappear?!?!?!
> That is SO ugly!
>
> But worst of all, three:  I can't tell where the bookmark is at.  I
can't
> *find* it.  Oh sure, I can click it and it will send Firefox to the
target
> URL.  But where is the bookmark itself?  It's buried four levels deep
> somewhere, and I can't find it.  When I select it, it doesn't show in
the
> tree on the left.  When I check the properties, it tells me nothing
about
> where the bookmark actually is.  If I want to find it, I have to
manually go
> digging through hundreds of bookmarks, weaving my way up and down
every
> single branch of the entire tree, until I come across it.  This is
very,
> very bad.  What good is Search when it doesn't Find?
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> J.
>

yes, basic folder hierarchy organizational skills

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Janice P. wrote:
> This is so frustrating.  I have many hundreds of bookmarks in many dozens 
of
> folders.  I want to find one bookmark, so I do a search.  I have three
> serious gripes with the search:
>
> One, the search bar is permanent up there, taking all that vertical space,
> going unused 99% of the time.  What an annoying waste of space!
>
> Two, the search narrows everything down in a fashion similar to the filter
> in about :config.  This is nerve-wracking!  Why not just go to the first
> match, then f3 leads to the second match, and so forth?  Why make all of t
he
> *other* bookmarks and the tree structure and everything disappear?!?!?!
> That is SO ugly!
>
> But worst of all, three:  I can't tell where the bookmark is at.  I can't
> *find* it.  Oh sure, I can click it and it will send Firefox to the target
> URL.  But where is the bookmark itself?  It's buried four levels deep
> somewhere, and I can't find it.  When I select it, it doesn't show in the
> tree on the left.  When I check the properties, it tells me nothing about
> where the bookmark actually is.  If I want to find it, I have to manually 
go
> digging through hundreds of bookmarks, weaving my way up and down every
> single branch of the entire tree, until I come across it.  This is very,
> very bad.  What good is Search when it doesn't Find?
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> J.
>

Not disagreeing with you that the BM function is in drastic need of
overhaul.  There is a partial workaround that is useful.

Open your bookmarks.html file in your browser. Use the Find function to
search for the "Name" of the bookmark.  That will show you the folder
context of its location.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
Why do they use sterilized needles for lethal injections?

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Janice P. wrote:
> This is so frustrating.  I have many hundreds of bookmarks in many dozens 
of
> folders.  I want to find one bookmark, so I do a search.  I have three
> serious gripes with the search:
>
> One, the search bar is permanent up there, taking all that vertical space,
> going unused 99% of the time.  What an annoying waste of space!
>
> Two, the search narrows everything down in a fashion similar to the filter
> in about :config.  This is nerve-wracking!  Why not just go to the first
> match, then f3 leads to the second match, and so forth?  Why make all of t
he
> *other* bookmarks and the tree structure and everything disappear?!?!?!
> That is SO ugly!
>
> But worst of all, three:  I can't tell where the bookmark is at.  I can't
> *find* it.  Oh sure, I can click it and it will send Firefox to the target
> URL.  But where is the bookmark itself?  It's buried four levels deep
> somewhere, and I can't find it.  When I select it, it doesn't show in the
> tree on the left.  When I check the properties, it tells me nothing about
> where the bookmark actually is.  If I want to find it, I have to manually 
go
> digging through hundreds of bookmarks, weaving my way up and down every
> single branch of the entire tree, until I come across it.  This is very,
> very bad.  What good is Search when it doesn't Find?
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> J.
>


You may be helped by the following extensions.

Enhanced Bookmark Search
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/494/

Locate in Bookmark Folders
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/622/

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:01:25 -0600, "SG" <spaamtrapper@yahoo.com> posted:
 
>
>yes, basic folder hierarchy organizational skills

Thank you for the common, predictable, brainless, smartass reply!

J.

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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:20:43 -0500, Ed Mullen <ed@edmullen.net> posted:

>There is a partial workaround that is useful.
>
>Open your bookmarks.html file in your browser. Use the Find function to
>search for the "Name" of the bookmark.

Yes, I thought of that, and I even did it once, but it's another example of
me being expected to bend and contort and go to extra, time-consuming
measures just to accommodate my software.  That's getting a little tiresome
with Firefox and I'm still fairly new.  I hope it gets better before it gets
worse.  My question "Am I missing something?" was sincere, thinking maybe
there was something I had overlooked or not discovered yet, that is, a
better solution than to manually hunt it down whether by opening the file in
the browser or a text editor.

Thank you kindly for your help, Ed.

J.

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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:34:30 -0600, Doug G <doug4179@comcast.net> posted:

>You may be helped by the following extensions.
>
>Enhanced Bookmark Search
>https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/494/

That one says it doesn't work with 2.0 and I'm just about to upgrade

>Locate in Bookmark Folders
>https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/622/

That one causes Firefox to pop up a malicious content warning!  Is this
normal?  It does irk me when something insists on being installed directly
from the web, rather than allow itself to be downloaded and examined and
then installed at my leisure.

Thank you for the links, Doug.

J.

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Janice P. wrote:
 
>
> That one causes Firefox to pop up a malicious content warning!  Is this
> normal?  It does irk me when something insists on being installed directly
> from the web, rather than allow itself to be downloaded and examined and
> then installed at my leisure.

what does the warning say?

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Janice P. wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:20:43 -0500, Ed Mullen <ed@edmullen.net> posted:
> 
>
> Yes, I thought of that, and I even did it once, but it's another example o
f
> me being expected to bend and contort and go to extra, time-consuming
> measures just to accommodate my software.  That's getting a little tiresom
e
> with Firefox and I'm still fairly new.  I hope it gets better before it ge
ts
> worse.  My question "Am I missing something?" was sincere, thinking maybe

And the answer, unspoken, was:  No, you're not. I said that the
bookmarks manager is lacking. So. Your choice, given that you're using
free software, is to:

1. Express your desires/dissatisfaction (hey, you got that one!)
2. Stop using the free software, use something else
3. If you are a programmer, it's Open Source, recode it
4. If you are committed to the effort to improve the product, well,
learn how to communicate your desires and suggestions to this community
- /without ticking everyone off/

It's very easy to get passionate about this "stuff."  But, remember,
this "stuff" is the product of hundreds (or thousands) of people across
the world, giving their time and smarts FOR FREE, for your benefit. Do
the always get it right?  No. But the biggest companies in the world
also are ... uh ... Oooo!  Imperfect!  Wow! Humans!

Are you (or I) always right in our criticisms?  Nah. Still and all, I've
never had so much fun nagging developers since I had a job where they
worked for me. And then I could actually fire people. So, before you get
too worked up about this FREE paradigm, consider:

- it's free
- it's actually very good
- you get to XXXXX and moan about your pet peeves
- you can (if you know how to do it) actually follow the lengthy design
process and comment on it
- you could, well, just re-write it yourself (I had to say that, it's
Open Source)

Or, just go spend several hundred bucks on some shrink-wrapped product,
get frustrated, and realized (after some hundred hours of nonsense) that
no one at the manufacturer wants to listen to you; nor wants to answer
you; nor even cares if your third-acre of property with house sinks into
the ground. In fact, Babbi-Yabba (or Ian MacNumbNuts) would be glad if
it did.

Hey, we all are here to help.  With your problems that you are having
with a FREE product.  You are, by any stretch of the imagination,
getting many hundreds of a percent more than you've paid.

<deep breath>

Ok!  ;-)  Now.  We all have our pet peeves. So, let's be nice about it.
Ask a specific question, wait for it! ... ok, here it comes ... a
realistic answer.

Everybody have a drink on me. <huge deep breath!>  Hey, even the deep
breath is free.

> Thank you kindly for your help, Ed.

I live to be annoying!  Or loving. Or, well, just endearing enough that
my Auntie Lyn will keep hugging me.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn.

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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:51:35 -0700, Janice P. wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:34:30 -0600, Doug G <doug4179@comcast.net> posted:
[...] 
>
> That one causes Firefox to pop up a malicious content warning!  Is this
> normal?

The "Software Installation" window says:

Malicious software can damage your computer or violate your privacy.
*You should only install software from sources that you trust.*

Is that what you mean?


Fwiw, I've been using this extension for some time.
I tried installing from the link in a new profile and don't see
anything unusual.

> It does irk me when something insists on being installed directly
> from the web, rather than allow itself to be downloaded and examined and
> then installed at my leisure.

Right-click and select "Save Link As..." to manually download, save
and install. Drag'n'drop onto Firefox to install after examination.


--
Rom

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