Fellow developers,

Some of you probably have seen that I'm currently running a mini
"campaign" to fix longstanding l10n bug reports, mostly for debconf
stuff.

As part of this process, I send initial mails to
<package>@packages.debian.org and <package>@packages.qa.debian.org to
warn maintainers about my NMU intent.

These mails use the "X-PTS-Approved: yes" header as needed
for sending mails to addresses@packages.qa.debian.org

(the point in sending mail to both addresses is having more chances to
reach the real maintainer when packages are team-maintained and  the
team address is not used in Maintainer

However, during that last campaign, many maintainers mentioned me that
they indeed did *not* receive such notices.

For instance, yesterday, a notice sent to arb@packages.debian.org,
arb@packages.qa.debian.org AND directly to Andreas Tille, the package
maintainer, has only been received once by Andreas.

I made a few tests by sending mails to such addresses for my own
"geneweb" package.....and, three hours after, nothing came in.

I would indeed like to know whether some of you also experienced
this...to at least know whether the problem is on my side or on Debian
servers side.

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also sprach Christian Perrier <bubulle@kheops.frmug.org> [2007.01.28.1157 +0000]:
> However, during that last campaign, many maintainers mentioned me
> that they indeed did *not* receive such notices.

see #377282

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Quoting martin f krafft (madduck@debian.org):
> also sprach Christian Perrier <bubulle@kheops.frmug.org> [2007.01.28.1
157+0000]: 
> 
> see #377282


Well, this i snot exactly what I meant in my original mail. Currently,
*both* mails to <package>@p.d.o and <package>@p.qa.d.o do not seem to
reach the maintainer (which I confirmed with my geneweb package for
instance).

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On Sun, Jan 28, 2007, Christian Perrier wrote:
> However, during that last campaign, many maintainers mentioned me that
> they indeed did *not* receive such notices.

For my part, this was long ago and because you didn't Cc:
@packages.qa.debian.org back then (IIRC).

> For instance, yesterday, a notice sent to arb@packages.debian.org,
> arb@packages.qa.debian.org AND directly to Andreas Tille, the package
> maintainer, has only been received once by Andreas.

He should have received another copy, the arb@packages.debian.org copy,
and I think he will shortly receive it as I'm getting the
packages.debian.org mail backlog that has accumulated since the
beginning of the year right now.  I suppose someone saw the problem
mentionned here and went to fix it on puccini.debian.org.

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> > However, during that last campaign, many maintainers mentioned me that 
> 
>  For my part, this was long ago and because you didn't Cc:
>  @packages.qa.debian.org back then (IIRC).

Yes. During the first campaign (back in October and November), I was
only sending mails to <package>@p.d.o

At the end of the 1st campaign (December), I began sending to *both*
addresses. 

And, for the 2nd campaign, which I started 10 days ago, I was mailing
both addresses since the beginning.
 
> 
>  He should have received another copy, the arb@packages.debian.org copy,
>  and I think he will shortly receive it as I'm getting the
>  packages.debian.org mail backlog that has accumulated since the
>  beginning of the year right now.  I suppose someone saw the problem
>  mentionned here and went to fix it on puccini.debian.org.


This has been unblocked by the admin team, which I mailed about this
problem.

Joerg Jaspert looked at the mail queue on puccini and noticed that it
was completely lagging.

I still have no explanation for mails to
<package>@packages.qa.debian.org not reaching their destination,
though. Maybe they have been unblocked as well, we'll see..

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Christian Perrier <bubulle@kheops.frmug.org> wrote:
[...]
> As part of this process, I send initial mails to
> <package>@packages.debian.org and <package>@packages.qa.debian.org to
> warn maintainers about my NMU intent.
[...]
> However, during that last campaign, many maintainers mentioned me that
> they indeed did *not* receive such notices.
[...]
> I would indeed like to know whether some of you also experienced
> this...to at least know whether the problem is on my side or on Debian
> servers side.

FWIW I sent a testmail to mixer.app_at_packages.debian.org this afternoon
and it was indeed delivered to me (after 90 minutes). So it is not completel
y
broken.
cu andreas
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