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    Bandwidth planning, design and overhaul question  
J. Oquendo


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02-26-07 06:11 PM

Hey all, I have a quick question on the design aspect of things which doesn'
t necessarily pertain to Cisco. Supposing I have a SoHo company with 38 user
s and they're using a Data T1 with 10 lines.

If I were to design this network would it be safe in using the current ratio
s:

10(lines) * AMOUNT_OF_CODEC_BANDWITH = Maximum_Outbound_VoiP_Capacity

I ask this simple question because I have a scenario I'm trying to be modest
/political about where a bandwidth upgrade is being questioned.

The maximum amount of calls in or out would be the 10 lines no? Which would 
be a constant 846kbp/s using 711 codes 430 using 729 without including data 
which I can police.

SampleClient's current bandwidth information. Bear in mind this is a 8am-6pm
 operation which is why the average is low. If I had to average during busin
ess hours, the average is about 338kbp/s

Daily Traffic (5 Minute Average) *VoIP ONLY*

Max                   Average              Current
In      508.3 kb/s (0.1%)     58.7 kb/s (0.0%)     66.5 kb/s (0.0%)
Out     508.0 kb/s (0.1%)     56.9 kb/s (0.0%)     64.3 kb/s (0.0%)

Weekly Traffic (30 Minute Average) *VoIP ONLY*

Max                   Average              Current
In      490.3 kb/s (0.0%)     58.8 kb/s (0.0%)     23.0 kb/s (0.0%)
Out     480.9 kb/s (0.0%)     56.5 kb/s (0.0%)     21.8 kb/s (0.0%)


Monthly Traffic (2 Hour Average) *VoIP ONLY*

Max                   Average              Current
In      343.3 kb/s (0.0%)     62.9 kb/s (0.0%)     10.4 kb/s (0.0%)
Out     341.2 kb/s (0.0%)     60.9 kb/s (0.0%)     9952.0 b/s (0.0%)

... So long story short... Outside of multiplying phones to bandwidth, sinc
e they only have 10 lines, is it safe to use that maximum as their threshold
.. E.g: 10(lines) * 711Codecs = 846kbps for VoIP traffic?

Thanks in advance..

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    Re: Bandwidth planning, design and overhaul question  
Matthew Saskin


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02-26-07 06:11 PM

It would probably make a bit more sense to express things in terms of
their current busy hour call volume - i.e.; on any given day what is the
maximum number of concurrent calls they have going at any one point in time.

While it's always good to let people know the maximum (i.e.; 10 calls
inbound/outbound total) it seems like a better idea to plan for slightly
higher than average usage (take the avg. call volume, add in some safety
buffer, and done).

It really depends on the application...is voice a mission critical
function at this enterprise?  Is data more critical?  Are you [they]
prepared to have one suffer in exchange for the other?  How much of a
workflow interruption is a re-order tone and having to wait a short
while to try calling again?  Is the extra cost of more bandwidth
acceptable compared to potentially lost productivity?

-matt

J. Oquendo wrote:
> Hey all, I have a quick question on the design aspect of things which does
n't necessarily pertain to Cisco. Supposing I have a SoHo company with 38 us
ers and they're using a Data T1 with 10 lines.
>
> If I were to design this network would it be safe in using the current rat
ios:
>
> 10(lines) * AMOUNT_OF_CODEC_BANDWITH = Maximum_Outbound_VoiP_Capacity
>
> I ask this simple question because I have a scenario I'm trying to be mode
st/political about where a bandwidth upgrade is being questioned.
>
> The maximum amount of calls in or out would be the 10 lines no? Which woul
d be a constant 846kbp/s using 711 codes 430 using 729 without including dat
a which I can police.
>
> SampleClient's current bandwidth information. Bear in mind this is a 8am-6
pm operation which is why the average is low. If I had to average during bus
iness hours, the average is about 338kbp/s
>
> Daily Traffic (5 Minute Average) *VoIP ONLY*
>
>      Max                   Average              Current
> In      508.3 kb/s (0.1%)     58.7 kb/s (0.0%)     66.5 kb/s (0.0%)
> Out     508.0 kb/s (0.1%)     56.9 kb/s (0.0%)     64.3 kb/s (0.0%)
>
> Weekly Traffic (30 Minute Average) *VoIP ONLY*
>
>      Max                   Average              Current
> In      490.3 kb/s (0.0%)     58.8 kb/s (0.0%)     23.0 kb/s (0.0%)
> Out     480.9 kb/s (0.0%)     56.5 kb/s (0.0%)     21.8 kb/s (0.0%)
>
>
> Monthly Traffic (2 Hour Average) *VoIP ONLY*
>
>     Max                   Average              Current
> In      343.3 kb/s (0.0%)     62.9 kb/s (0.0%)     10.4 kb/s (0.0%)
> Out     341.2 kb/s (0.0%)     60.9 kb/s (0.0%)     9952.0 b/s (0.0%)
>
> ... So long story short... Outside of multiplying phones to bandwidth, sin
ce they only have 10 lines, is it safe to use that maximum as their threshol
d... E.g: 10(lines) * 711Codecs = 846kbps for VoIP traffic?
>
> Thanks in advance..
>
>  =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
=+=+=+=+=+
> J. Oquendo
> echo @infiltrated|sed 's/^/sil/g;s/$/.net/g'
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup...arch=0x1383A743
>
> "How a man plays the game shows something of his
> character - how he loses shows all" - Mr. Luckey
>  ________________________________________
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>





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