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    Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
Non scrivetemi


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03-17-07 12:12 AM

The subject says it all, I have to use task manager to be sure
Vidalia has exited. I've seen two instances running at one time.
Haven't tried for 3+.






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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
Gogarty


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03-17-07 06:13 PM

In article < 555ec242b42790ab36477aa55746a76d@pboxmix
.winstonsmith.info>,
nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info says...
>
>
>The subject says it all, I have to use task manager to be sure
>Vidalia has exited. I've seen two instances running at one time.
>Haven't tried for 3+.
>
The problem I am having with Vidalia is it freezes shortly after
starting TOR. TOR continues to run quite happily without Vidalia but
then you have no flexibility in dealing with it.






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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
Anonymous


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03-18-07 12:13 AM

Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:

> In article < 555ec242b42790ab36477aa55746a76d@pboxmix
.winstonsmith.info>,
> nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info says... 
> The problem I am having with Vidalia is it freezes shortly after
> starting TOR. TOR continues to run quite happily without Vidalia but
> then you have no flexibility in dealing with it.

That's a good thing. Tor does a fine job all by itself, and more people
bork their security by mucking around with it than anything. Vidalia
is a good Tor marketing, it gives the Wintards a pretty flashing icon
to stare at and the false sense of security they thrive on, but it's
train wreck for anonymity in general.






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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
Anonyma


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03-18-07 12:13 AM

In article <a883ded4fa78179caebcef9a3845bef1@anon.mixmaster.mixmin.net>
Anonymous <nobody@mixmin.net> wrote:
>
> Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:
> 
>
> That's a good thing. Tor does a fine job all by itself, and more people
> bork their security by mucking around with it than anything. Vidalia
> is a good Tor marketing, it gives the Wintards a pretty flashing icon
> to stare at and the false sense of security they thrive on, but it's
> train wreck for anonymity in general.

And of course you can prove your not just spewing bullshit?

Please give some refs for vidalia's security risks.

I'm not going to hold my breath, btw 

















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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
Non scrivetemi


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03-18-07 12:13 AM

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:33:34 +0000, Anonymous wrote:

> That's a good thing. Tor does a fine job all by itself, and more people
> bork their security by mucking around with it than anything. Vidalia
> is a good Tor marketing, it gives the Wintards a pretty flashing icon
> to stare at and the false sense of security they thrive on, but it's
> train wreck for anonymity in general.

Since you like Tor, can you tell us what is it about Vidalia that is a
train wreck for anonymity?






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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
George Orwell


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03-18-07 12:13 AM

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote:
>In article <a883ded4fa78179caebcef9a3845bef1@anon.mixmaster.mixmin.net>
>Anonymous <nobody@mixmin.net> wrote: 
>
>And of course you can prove your not just spewing bullshit?
>
>Please give some refs for vidalia's security risks.
>
>I'm not going to hold my breath, btw 

He doesn't have to. He used the word "Wintards" which shows us he is elite
(l33t) and oh, so special. He is probably eithe a Mac genius or a Linux
genius, and so far above us "Wintards" that we should just take what he
says as gospel, without question.

















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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
Anonyma


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03-18-07 12:13 AM

> Since you like Tor, can you tell us what is it about Vidalia that is a
> train wreck for anonymity?

Damn, eelbash, I thought you'd left. 






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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
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03-18-07 06:14 AM


In article < 21830d714ef0dd73d7963e49f8d444cf@mixmast
er.it>
George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote: 
>
> He doesn't have to. He used the word "Wintards" which shows us he is elite
> (l33t) and oh, so special. He is probably eithe a Mac genius or a Linux
> genius, and so far above us "Wintards" that we should just take what he
> says as gospel, without question.

I doubt if he's a Mac guy, they'd complain about Vidalia being too
complicated.

I thought Vidalia was just a GUI frontend for Tor, it really has
nothing to do with the security of Tor.






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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
Gogarty


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03-18-07 06:13 PM

In article < 4088076360ef0dba230cd0a19f90c81f@remaile
r.privacy.at>,
mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at says...
>
>
>I thought Vidalia was just a GUI frontend for Tor, it really has
>nothing to do with the security of Tor.
>
So far as I can tell, that is correct. And very iseful it is when it does no
t
freeze. It doesn't freeze on my XP machine. It only freezes on my ME machine
,
which is the one running a TOR exit node server. The XP is running only as a
client. How does one tweak TOR without Vidalia?






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    Re: Vidalia doesn't exit when I left click exit in XP.  
George Orwell


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03-18-07 06:13 PM

Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:

> In article < 4088076360ef0dba230cd0a19f90c81f@remaile
r.privacy.at>,
> mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at says... 
> So far as I can tell, that is correct. And very iseful it is when it does 
not
> freeze. It doesn't freeze on my XP machine. It only freezes on my ME machi
ne,
> which is the one running a TOR exit node server. The XP is running only as
 a
> client. How does one tweak TOR without Vidalia?

There you have it. Running a Tor server without a clue.

And you can still ask why a Wintard at the wheel is a bad thing?

>










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