Hello all;
 
A customer has the following requirements.
he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth which
 enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve bandwidth 
out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody else can use. is
 it possible with CM ver 4.1(3) 
 
Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer
 
Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar@act-eg.com

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Best choice for that is going to be to configure MLPP or to use a
network based approach (i.e.; tag that phones traffic with a different
DSCP, etc. value) and police traffic at the router level.

-matt

Ahmed Elnagar wrote:
> Hello all;
>
> A customer has the following requirements.
> he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth
> which enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve
> bandwidth out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody
> else can use. is it possible with CM ver 4.1(3)
>
> Thanks and Best Regards
> *
> Ahmed A. Elnagar
> *Network Field Engineer
>
> Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
> 16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt
> Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt
>
> *Mob**:* +2010-2833868
> *Website**: *www.act-eg.com
> *E-mail**: *aelnagar@act-eg.com <mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com>
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Or possibly just create another location - for the "main" location enter
enough bandwidth for 4 calls, and for the "special" location that the
single phone lives in, put enough bandwidth for 1 call.  May not be the
most efficient way of doing things, but it would work I guess.

-matt

Ahmed Elnagar wrote:
> Hello all;
>
> A customer has the following requirements.
> he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth
> which enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve
> bandwidth out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody
> else can use. is it possible with CM ver 4.1(3)
>
> Thanks and Best Regards
> *
> Ahmed A. Elnagar
> *Network Field Engineer
>
> Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
> 16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt
> Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt
>
> *Mob**:* +2010-2833868
> *Website**: *www.act-eg.com
> *E-mail**: *aelnagar@act-eg.com <mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  ________________________________________
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> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>

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> A customer has the following requirements.
> he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth
> which enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve
> bandwidth out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody
> else can use. is it possible with CM ver 4.1(3)

I think that you're actually talking about two different things:

1)  Location-based CAC (Call Admission Control).  We use this because we
have a centralized Unity system with remote offices.  We set location
bandwidth (so you would do 5 calls times the bandwidth per call).  The
sixth call would then invoke AAR and could be routed via PSTN.
2)  MLPP (Multi-level Precedence and Preemption).  Your "special user"
could have a code which would make their call a priority call and would
then cause one of the other calls to terminate if there weren't enough
resources.

So, a combination of those two should allow you to achieve what you want.

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yes I think ot this but a problem pop up to me. what if the phone (special o
ne) wants to make a conference with the internal 20 phones (which should not
 be restricted), he will not be able to do so. i guess all the phones have t
o be in single location but I dont know how to dedicate a bandwidth for a ce
rtain phone. (using DSCP is not applicable for me at all because it is a ver
y huge switching network and the locations to diff. differenate customers fr
om each other) it is a Service Provider solution.
 
Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer
 
Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar@act-eg.com

________________________________

From: Matthew Saskin [mailto:matt@saskin.net]
Sent: Tue 27-Mar-07 9:22 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location



Or possibly just create another location - for the "main" location enter
enough bandwidth for 4 calls, and for the "special" location that the
single phone lives in, put enough bandwidth for 1 call.  May not be the
most efficient way of doing things, but it would work I guess.

-matt

Ahmed Elnagar wrote:
> Hello all;
> 
> A customer has the following requirements.
> he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth
> which enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve
> bandwidth out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody
> else can use. is it possible with CM ver 4.1(3)
> 
> Thanks and Best Regards
> *
> Ahmed A. Elnagar
> *Network Field Engineer
> 
> Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
> 16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt
> Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt
>
> *Mob**:* +2010-2833868
> *Website**: *www.act-eg.com
> *E-mail**: *aelnagar@act-eg.com <mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>  

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thank you all for ut fast replies. I know location based MLPP would do it fo
r me but still that is not the requirement the customer doesnot want to drop
 running calls just he want to assign a certain bandwidth to that special us
er and nobody else can use it. ther is no PSTN connections that I can use AA
R with it.
 
Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer
 
Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar@act-eg.com

________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Robert Kulagowski
Sent: Tue 27-Mar-07 9:26 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location



> A customer has the following requirements.
> he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth
> which enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve
> bandwidth out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody
> else can use. is it possible with CM ver 4.1(3)

I think that you're actually talking about two different things:

1)  Location-based CAC (Call Admission Control).  We use this because we
have a centralized Unity system with remote offices.  We set location
bandwidth (so you would do 5 calls times the bandwidth per call).  The
sixth call would then invoke AAR and could be routed via PSTN.
2)  MLPP (Multi-level Precedence and Preemption).  Your "special user"
could have a code which would make their call a priority call and would
then cause one of the other calls to terminate if there weren't enough
resources.

So, a combination of those two should allow you to achieve what you want.
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In any case, in order for them to do 20 conference calls at the local
site, you would need hardware conference resources at that location.
With them local, the locations would not count if the devices are in the
same location.

 

 

 

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:42 PM
To: Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location

 

thank you all for ut fast replies. I know location based MLPP would do
it for me but still that is not the requirement the customer doesnot
want to drop running calls just he want to assign a certain bandwidth to
that special user and nobody else can use it. ther is no PSTN
connections that I can use AAR with it.

 

Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer

 

Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar@act-eg.com

 

________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Robert Kulagowski
Sent: Tue 27-Mar-07 9:26 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location

> A customer has the following requirements.
> he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth
> which enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve
> bandwidth out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody
> else can use. is it possible with CM ver 4.1(3)

I think that you're actually talking about two different things:

1)  Location-based CAC (Call Admission Control).  We use this because we
have a centralized Unity system with remote offices.  We set location
bandwidth (so you would do 5 calls times the bandwidth per call).The
sixth call would then invoke AAR and could be routed via PSTN.
2)  MLPP (Multi-level Precedence and Preemption).  Your "special user"
could have a code which would make their call a priority call and would
then cause one of the other calls to terminate if there weren't enough
resources.

So, a combination of those two should allow you to achieve what you
want.
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so they all have to be in one location, ok for MLPP cannot it be just less "
 aggressive" for example can it give the call that will be cleared a timer s
ay 1 min or so that his/her call will be cleared due to a high priority call
 is asking for the bandwidth??
 
Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer
 
Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar@act-eg.com

________________________________

From: Matt Slaga (US) [mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com]
Sent: Tue 27-Mar-07 9:55 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar; Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Location



In any case, in order for them to do 20 conference calls at the local site, 
you would need hardware conference resources at that location.  With them lo
cal, the locations would not count if the devices are in the same location.

 

 

 

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck
.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:42 PM
To: Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location

 

thank you all for ut fast replies. I know location based MLPP would do it fo
r me but still that is not the requirement the customer doesnot want to drop
 running calls just he want to assign a certain bandwidth to that special us
er and nobody else can use it. ther is no PSTN connections that I can use AA
R with it.

 

Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer

 

Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar@act-eg.com

 

________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Robert Kulagowski
Sent: Tue 27-Mar-07 9:26 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location

> A customer has the following requirements.
> he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth
> which enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve
> bandwidth out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody
> else can use. is it possible with CM ver 4.1(3)

I think that you're actually talking about two different things:

1)  Location-based CAC (Call Admission Control).  We use this because we
have a centralized Unity system with remote offices.  We set location
bandwidth (so you would do 5 calls times the bandwidth per call).  The
sixth call would then invoke AAR and could be routed via PSTN.
2)  MLPP (Multi-level Precedence and Preemption).  Your "special user"
could have a code which would make their call a priority call and would
then cause one of the other calls to terminate if there weren't enough
resources.

So, a combination of those two should allow you to achieve what you want.
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No, it's not graceful by any means.  As soon as the 1 user dials out,
one of the other connections is dropped immediately.

 

From: Ahmed Elnagar [mailto:aelnagar@ACT-EG.COM] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:16 PM
To: Matt Slaga (US); Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Location

 

so they all have to be in one location, ok for MLPP cannot it be just
less " aggressive" for example can it give the call that will be cleared
a timer say 1 min or so that his/her call will be cleared due to a high
priority call is asking for the bandwidth??

 

Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer

 

Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza,Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar@act-eg.com

 

________________________________

From: Matt Slaga (US) [mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com]
Sent: Tue 27-Mar-07 9:55 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar; Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Location

In any case,in order for them to do 20 conference calls at the local
site, you would need hardware conference resources at that location.
With them local, the locations would not count if the devices are in the
same location.

 

 

 

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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:42 PM
To: Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location

 

thank you all for ut fast replies. I know location based MLPP would do
it for me butstill that is not the requirement the customer doesnot
want to drop running calls just he want to assign a certain bandwidth to
that special user and nobody else can use it. ther is no PSTN
connections that I can use AAR with it.

 

Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer

 

Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar@act-eg.com

 

________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Robert Kulagowski
Sent: Tue 27-Mar-07 9:26 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location

> A customer has the following requirements.
> he has a location with 20 phones assigned to it, they have a bandwidth
> which enables them to make only 5 calls at a time. he wants to reserve
> bandwidth out of the 5 calls bandwidth for a certain user that nobody
>else can use. is it possible with CM ver 4.1(3)

I think that you're actually talking about two different things:

1)  Location-based CAC (Call Admission Control).  We use this because we
have a centralized Unity system with remote offices.  We set location
bandwidth (so you would do 5 calls times the bandwidth per call).  The
sixth call would then invoke AAR and could be routed via PSTN.
2)  MLPP (Multi-level Precedence and Preemption).  Your "special user"
could have a code which would make their call a priority call and would
then cause one of the other calls to terminate if there weren't enough
resources.

So, a combination of those two should allow you to achieve what you
want.
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