Sending via QS > Tor > Banana SMTP, I get error about faked HELO.

How then can I use Banana SMTP??


Sending Message 1 of 1
Encountered mixmaster message
Mixmaster encrypting...
Mixmaster reports 1 chain:
banana,austria,cyberiad,borked

Mixmaster Chain  1 of 1
Connecting...
220 mail.mixmin.net ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU)
250 mail.mixmin.net
250 2.1.0 Ok
554 5.7.1 <bananasplit.info>: Helo command rejected: Faked HELO
Aborting...
Connection closed!

ERROR: 1 unsent message in PROBLEM Queue!
Session finished

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On Sun,  8 Apr 2007 21:27:54 -0400 (EDT), Anonyma wrote in
Message-Id: <d46cd06d7a166d54187b22d336b8f4d5@deuxpi.ca>:

> Sending via QS > Tor > Banana SMTP, I get error about faked HELO.
>
> How then can I use Banana SMTP??

You're getting a 'faked HELO' because you're using one of my domain
names or ip addresses in your HELO.  Try using anything else, it doesn't
even have to be valid.

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On 09-Apr-07 at 9:02am -0000, <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:

> You're getting a 'faked HELO' because you're using one of my domain
> names or ip addresses in your HELO. Try using anything else, it doesn't
> even have to be valid.

Pardon me for jumping in -- but I am also a QuickSilver user, and I haven't
GOD's own notion of what in HELL (or "HELO"?) you are babbling about! What
in the name of all things sinister is a "HELO" ??? And how does one go about
setting a "domain name or IP address" in the aforesaid "HELO" when using
QuickSilver ???

Better still, since the problem apparently lies in the fact that this "HELO"
thingy (whatever that is) is NOT supposed to contain your "domain name or IP
address", how does one UNset the name or address in one's "HELO" ???

Kindly stop assuming that everyone is as expert as you are! We're not!!!  

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:35 -0400, "Glenn P.,"
<C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:

>On 09-Apr-07 at 9:02am -0000, <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:
> 
>
>Pardon me for jumping in -- but I am also a QuickSilver user, and I haven't
>GOD's own notion of what in HELL (or "HELO"?) you are babbling about! What
>in the name of all things sinister is a "HELO" ??? And how does one go abou
t
>setting a "domain name or IP address" in the aforesaid "HELO" when using
>QuickSilver ???

Then why not google for it?? You should be able to quickly find its
meaning, take this website e.g.:

[url]http://puszcza.gnu.org.ua/software/mailfromd/manual/html_node/HELO-Domain.html[/ur
l]

And many more of course!

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:17:31 +0200, John wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:35 -0400, "Glenn P.,"
> <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
> 
>
> Then why not google for it??

I don't wish to sound churlish; I'm grateful that the admin took the time
to answer at all; but How far back do you have to go to get a simple
explanation, and why should you have to go anywhere other than this group?

This group is for people who want to learn about anonymity. Shouldn't the
experts take care to describe things simply and clearly when they are
talking to a newbie?

> You should be able to quickly find its
> meaning, take this website e.g.:
>
> [url]http://puszcza.gnu.org.ua/software/mailfromd/manual/html_node/HELO-Domain.html[/
url]
>
> And many more of course!

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:35 -0400, Glenn P., wrote in
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704161712090.5093@Bfjrtb.SbkInyyrl.arg>:

> Pardon me for jumping in -- but I am also a QuickSilver user, and I haven'
t
> GOD's own notion of what in HELL (or "HELO"?) you are babbling about! What
> in the name of all things sinister is a "HELO" ??? And how does one go abo
ut
> setting a "domain name or IP address" in the aforesaid "HELO" when using
> QuickSilver ???

A HELO (or EHLO) is the email equivalent of you introducing yourself to
someone.  Using my computer name to say HELO to my computer is therefore
a faked identity.  You can be anyone else except me.  


> Better still, since the problem apparently lies in the fact that this "HEL
O"
> thingy (whatever that is) is NOT supposed to contain your "domain name or 
IP
> address", how does one UNset the name or address in one's "HELO" ???

Afraid I have no idea as I've not looked at Quicksilver for years.  I
could download it and play with it but I'm sure another QS user can
provide you with a better answer than I can.  If you don't get an answer
here, try the QS mailing lists at
http://www.quicksilvermail.net/lists.html
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Kindly stop assuming that everyone is as expert as you are! We're not!!!  [/vbco
l]

In this instance I could only answer the question by identifying the
symptoms.  The cure is beyond my knowledge and control.

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On 17-Apr-07 at 1:00am +0200, <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

:>> You're getting a 'faked HELO' because you're using one of my domain
:>> names or ip addresses in your HELO. Try using anything else, it doesn't
:>> even have to be valid.
 

:> Then why not google for it??
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I don't wish to sound churlish; I'm grateful that the admin took the time
> to answer at all; but How far back do you have to go to get a simple
> explanation, and why should you have to go anywhere other than this group?

> This group is for people who want to learn about anonymity. Shouldn't the
> experts take care to describe things simply and clearly when they are
> talking to a newbie?

I couldn't have put the thing better myself if I'd tried!     

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In article <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704161712090.5093@Bfjrtb.SbkInyyrl.arg>
"Glenn P.," <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> On 09-Apr-07 at 9:02am -0000, <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:
> 
>
> Pardon me for jumping in -- but I am also a QuickSilver user, and I haven'
t
> GOD's own notion of what in HELL (or "HELO"?) you are babbling about! What
> in the name of all things sinister is a "HELO" ??? And how does one go abo
ut
> setting a "domain name or IP address" in the aforesaid "HELO" when using
> QuickSilver ???
>
> Better still, since the problem apparently lies in the fact that this "HEL
O"
> thingy (whatever that is) is NOT supposed to contain your "domain name or 
IP
> address", how does one UNset the name or address in one's "HELO" ???
>
> Kindly stop assuming that everyone is as expert as you are! We're not!!!  [/vbco
l]

QS let's you change the HELO.

Use this header

Sign-On: nowhere.net

Just put it among the headers in your message. It doesn't have to be
nowhere.net  Could be any domain.

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Zax <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote in
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> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:35 -0400, Glenn P., wrote in
> Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704161712090.5093@Bfjrtb.SbkInyyrl.arg>:
> 
>
> A HELO (or EHLO) is the email equivalent of you introducing yourself
> to someone.  Using my computer name to say HELO to my computer is
> therefore a faked identity.  You can be anyone else except me.  
>
> 
>
> Afraid I have no idea as I've not looked at Quicksilver for years.  I
> could download it and play with it but I'm sure another QS user can
> provide you with a better answer than I can.  If you don't get an
> answer here, try the QS mailing lists at
> http://www.quicksilvermail.net/lists.html
> 
>
> In this instance I could only answer the question by identifying the
> symptoms.  The cure is beyond my knowledge and control.

I had this same problem recently.  Here's the solution I found:

In the QS template I use these headers:

Fcc: outbox
Host: 127.0.0.1:2525
Sign-on: none.invalid
From: foo@bar.invalid
Chain: banana,*,*,*; copies=3
To:
Subject:

The 'Sign-on:' header tells Qs what to use for the HELO (or EHLO) part
of the exchange with the smtp server


Then in stunnel.conf I have the following entry:

[BANANA_TLS_SMTP]
protocol = smtp
accept  = 127.0.0.1:2525
connect = mail.bananasplit.info:2525
delay = no


QS then connects to Bananasplit.info's smtp by way of Stunnel.  This
means that not only is the connection direct to the remailers smtp, but
by using stunnel it's encrypted also.  If you take the extra step of
running TOR and sockifying stunnel, your connection to Bananasplit is
then anonymized as well.

For more details have a look at this:

http://www.panta-rhei.eu.org/pantaw...thTorAndStunnel

and this:

http://www.bananasplit.info/stunnel.html


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In article <8d18d21509b04b6498ce218de74854f6@dizum.com>
Eelbash Admin wrote:
>
> I don't wish to sound churlish; I'm grateful that the admin took the time
> to answer at all; but How far back do you have to go to get a simple
> explanation, and why should you have to go anywhere other than this group?
>
> This group is for people who want to learn about anonymity. Shouldn't the
> experts take care to describe things simply and clearly when they are
> talking to a newbie?

Eelbash, Zax responded perfectly politely. He simply said that his
server reports that error when the HELO command contains his domain
name.

How exactly is he supposed to know whether or not QS did it by default
or whether the OP used a QS Header command to change the helo or
anything else? All he could reply was why it happened.

PS: Your software is still outing you in your posts. Seriously,
consider downloading a hex editor and looking at your posts. If you're
going to out yourself without your knowledge in every post you make,
you may as well not even bother posting through remailers. It's worth
the time to download that hex editor.

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