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Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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04-14-07 12:13 AM
There is a website which has a link formatted like:
http://this.site.com.aweb.com:8888/here/
This page is a search form which works fine when I don't have a proxy
server configured. If I add a proxy in Firefox (ip and port in
connection settings) the form will not work - it just loads a blank
page. The form itself does load when a proxy is used, it just doesn't
work. The resulting pages when I don't use a proxy are not https. I
tried many different proxies from many lists (all high anonymity - no
"forwarded-for" stuff). None work. The proxies work fine on other
pages. Noting the ":8888"
in the pages URL I tried both proxies that use that port, and ones
that don't (the proxy ports were commonly 80,8080,8888,3124,3128.)
How can I access that page with a proxy server configured in network
settings? I don't have Java or scripts disabled.
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Re: Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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04-14-07 12:13 AM
sammy_j@mailinator.com wrote:
> There is a website which has a link formatted like:
> http://this.site.com.aweb.com:8888/here/
> This page is a search form which works fine when I don't have a proxy
> server configured. If I add a proxy in Firefox (ip and port in
> connection settings) the form will not work - it just loads a blank
There's all sorts of things that could cause this like header or
content filtering/rewriting, RBL's, etc.
It's impossible to say what the specific problem is without knowing
what proxy you're using and what site you're trying to visit. If you're
unable to say then all you can do is try another proxy and different
settings until you find a combination that works.
> page. The form itself does load when a proxy is used, it just doesn't
> work. The resulting pages when I don't use a proxy are not https. I
> tried many different proxies from many lists (all high anonymity - no
> "forwarded-for" stuff). None work. The proxies work fine on other
> pages. Noting the ":8888"
> in the pages URL I tried both proxies that use that port, and ones
> that don't (the proxy ports were commonly 80,8080,8888,3124,3128.)
>
> How can I access that page with a proxy server configured in network
> settings? I don't have Java or scripts disabled.
>
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Re: Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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04-15-07 12:14 AM
On Apr 14, 4:28 am, samm...@mailinator.com wrote:
> There is a website which has a link formatted like:http://this.site.com.aweb.com
:8888/here/
> <snip>
> Noting the ":8888"
you need to use an http proxy that not only support the CONNECT
method (in addition to the usual GET and POST) but also configured to
allow CONNECT to ports other than 443 (ssl). You'll almost never find
a public proxy configured like this since this essentially turns the
proxy into a generic TCP proxy aka: spambot.
There are proxies out there that are configured less strict such as
only blocking port 25 and allowing other ports but most sysadmins are
paranoid by nature so tend to block as much as possible. If you
personally know the guy running the proxy and can negotiate with him
then ask him to allow CONNECT to support port 8888 on his proxy.
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Re: Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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Re: Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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05-19-07 12:14 AM
joeyg@giveitup-XXXXspam.com wrote:
> well the big problem that I see is that 'this.site.com.aweb.com' doesn't
> resolve to anything useful, here's dnsstuff about it:
> http://tinyurl.com/35ftv9
>
> network solutions looks to be the registrar for aweb.com
> http://www.aboutus.org/Aweb.com
>
> I host a DNS server, had it check the root servers, nada comes up for
> 'this.site.com' on the 'aweb.com' domain
>
> on the off chance someone goofed & added an extra '.com' where it wasn't
> meant to be I tried 'http://this.site.aweb.com:8888/here/' & that comes up
> just as dead, unregistered & unhosted
>
> domain name resolution & DNS recursion require domains be publicly
> registered & in the DNS databases with web servers hosting the domain
> address, elsewise stuff like this will just keep coming up '404' in browse
rs
> when trying to get them to come up, in this case the 'aweb.com' domain has
> no web servers or DNS servers pointing back to 'this.site.com' as being in
> the 'aweb.com' domain
>
> btw, tor/privoxy cracked, insecure? its all FUD, they rule
>
> -joeyg
Not sure what you mean, aweb.com resolves fine, so either the subdomains
don't exist or are set not to respond. But I suspect that isn't what you
mean.
Andy
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Re: Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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05-19-07 06:15 AM
In article <f2lc1d$2a0$3@aioe.org>, nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie>
wrote:
> joeyg@giveitup-XXXXspam.com wrote:
>
> Not sure what you mean, aweb.com resolves fine, so either the subdomains
> don't exist or are set not to respond. But I suspect that isn't what you
> mean.
That's exactly what he means. The names "aweb.com" and "www.aweb.com"
resolve fine, but the OP said that his problem was with
"this.site.com.aweb.com", and that name doesn't resolve.
What's strange is that the OP claims to be able to access the site when
he's not using a proxy. My browser doesn't use a proxy, and I tried to
go to the URL he gave and it failed because the server name doesn't
exist.
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
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Re: Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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05-19-07 06:15 AM
On Fri, 18 May 2007 02:20:00 GMT, joeyg@giveitup-XXXXspam.com wrote:
>well the big problem that I see is that 'this.site.com.aweb.com' doesn't
>resolve to anything useful, here's dnsstuff about it:
>http://tinyurl.com/35ftv9
>
>network solutions looks to be the registrar for aweb.com
>http://www.aboutus.org/Aweb.com
>
>I host a DNS server, had it check the root servers, nada comes up for
>'this.site.com' on the 'aweb.com' domain
>
>on the off chance someone goofed & added an extra '.com' where it wasn't
>meant to be I tried 'http://this.site.aweb.com:8888/here/' & that comes up
>just as dead, unregistered & unhosted
>
>domain name resolution & DNS recursion require domains be publicly
>registered & in the DNS databases with web servers hosting the domain
>address, elsewise stuff like this will just keep coming up '404' in browser
s
>when trying to get them to come up, in this case the 'aweb.com' domain has
>no web servers or DNS servers pointing back to 'this.site.com' as being in
>the 'aweb.com' domain
>
>btw, tor/privoxy cracked, insecure? its all FUD, they rule
>
>-joeyg
...why are you necroposting? Yeesh, that topic was dead last month
fer cryin out loud.
It's like today I got an email from this d00d who was asking about a
post I made back in 2005! o_O
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
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"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the XXXX up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
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"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty XXXXing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."
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Re: Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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05-19-07 12:13 PM
On Fri, 18 May 2007 22:09:27 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter
<usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>
>...why are you necroposting? Yeesh, that topic was dead last month
>fer cryin out loud.
>
>It's like today I got an email from this d00d who was asking about a
>post I made back in 2005! o_O
>
> --
>
>Onideus Mad Hatter
>mhm ¹ x ¹
you know what I usually tell whiners who whinge to me about something?
no?
I usually tell 'em:
'Do you ever _NOT_ whine?' lol
I figured I'd let my better half of my split personality critique
myself... bad post! bad! bad! lol :-p
I always wonder what type of person whinges about 'old' dialog on tech
newsgroups... as if they are the conversation police or something... I
wonder that cause I (we: me myself & I haha) grew up in the
pre-BushNazi free-speech-loving U.S. of A.
got strange that way, being able to say whatever I want, whenever I
want to hahaha... without BushNazties jumping in & threatening me with
lockup as an enemy combatant at Gitmo, Texas for saying what I wanted
to say lol :-p
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
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Re: Proxy proof website? Can't load it through any proxy. |
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05-19-07 12:13 PM
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:59:26 -0400, Barry Margolin
<barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>In article <f2lc1d$2a0$3@aioe.org>, nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie>
>wrote:
>
>That's exactly what he means. The names "aweb.com" and "www.aweb.com"
>resolve fine, but the OP said that his problem was with
>"this.site.com.aweb.com", and that name doesn't resolve.
>
>What's strange is that the OP claims to be able to access the site when
>he's not using a proxy. My browser doesn't use a proxy, and I tried to
>go to the URL he gave and it failed because the server name doesn't
>exist.
>That's exactly what he means. The names "aweb.com" and "www.aweb.com"
>resolve fine, but the OP said that his problem was with
>"this.site.com.aweb.com", and that name doesn't resolve.
>What's strange is that the OP claims to be able to access the site when
>he's not using a proxy. My browser doesn't use a proxy, and I tried to
>go to the URL he gave and it failed because the server name doesn't
>exist.
>--
>Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
>Arlington, MA
>*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
hmm, didn't catch that Barry, I just scanned his OP quickly & looked
for the obvious error in it
if what you say about his OP is true, I'd say he might've been posting
from the aweb.com domain, & there was (possibly) a web server
configured on that domain with support from a local DNS server
(serving the aweb.com domain) that was able to resolve the
'this.site.com.aweb.com' domain name... it is doable if one is hosting
their own DNS server & not fully playing by the DNS rules (the '.com'
domain hierarchy is not supposed to be in a domain name as part of the
'.com' level domain, as in 'this.site.com' being in the 'aweb.com'
domain.. hmm)
but this is doable, not supposed to be done & not good DNS practice &
likely to be flagged as DNS abuse if on the www, but for a local DNS
server hosting a private LAN domain (a DNS server not open to the www
that is), perfectly doable
maybe this is what was going on, why it worked for OP but nobody else?
*shrugs -jg
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05-19-07 06:13 PM
On Sat, 19 May 2007 05:41:58 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
Froups?
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