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    bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
willbill


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04-14-07 12:14 AM

bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

i've come across connection issues
with my (admittedly limited) use
of SATA drives, both data and power,
most recently power

what an aggrevation!

are others seeing this?

bill





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    Re: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
Rita Ä Berkowitz


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04-14-07 12:14 AM

willbill wrote:

> bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!
>
> i've come across connection issues
> with my (admittedly limited) use
> of SATA drives, both data and power,
> most recently power
>
> what an aggrevation!
>
> are others seeing this?

No, since I use SCSI with SCA connectors these problems are nonexistent.
You get what you pay for.  SATA drives are basically toys equivalent to what
comes out of a gumball machine.




Rita






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    Re: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
The Lone Gunman


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04-14-07 12:14 AM

Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
: willbill wrote:
:
:: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!
::
:: i've come across connection issues
:: with my (admittedly limited) use
:: of SATA drives, both data and power,
:: most recently power
::
:: what an aggrevation!
::
:: are others seeing this?
:
: No, since I use SCSI with SCA connectors these problems are
: nonexistent. You get what you pay for.  SATA drives are
: basically toys equivalent to what comes out of a gumball
: machine.

The usual pearls of wisdom from "Rita" the transexual.  You are SUCH a
XXXXing lamer!







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    Re: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
Arno Wagner


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04-14-07 12:14 AM

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage willbill <trek@worldwide.net> wrote:
> bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

> i've come across connection issues
> with my (admittedly limited) use
> of SATA drives, both data and power,
> most recently power

> what an aggrevation!

> are others seeing this?

SATA connectors require precise manufacturing in order to
work well. Many cheaper ones just have too high tolerances.
Buy quality and you should be fine.

Arno





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04-14-07 06:14 AM

In article <13200j3ju6dhae0@news.supernews.com>,
Rita Ä Berkowitz  <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:

>No, since I use SCSI with SCA connectors these problems are nonexistent.

Why do you bother to post something so useless?






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    Re: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
Alexander Grigoriev


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04-14-07 06:14 AM

It's a script that awakens periodically, triggered by ATA, IDE, an so on. Or
self-appointed SCSI preacher without a life. "I'm a righteous one: I don't
use no bloody ATA".

<ellis@no.spam> wrote in message news:1176517050.318538@no.spam...
> In article <13200j3ju6dhae0@news.supernews.com>,
> Rita Ä Berkowitz  <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
> 
>
> Why do you bother to post something so useless?
>







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    Re: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
gtstephenson@gmail.com


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04-14-07 06:14 AM

On Apr 13, 12:22 pm, willbill <t...@worldwide.net> wrote:
> bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!
>
> i've come across connection issues
> with my (admittedly limited) use
> of SATA drives, both data and power,
> most recently power
>
> what an aggrevation!
>
> are others seeing this?
>
> bill

I use SATA drives - Have a lot of experience with them. I have seen
some issues with them being fragile. It's critical that the cable be
exactly straight coming out of the drive. I have seen quite a few
broken cable ends where the side (edge) of the connector is broken.
That weakens the connector so the top and bottom spread and the spring
tension if the pins won't make adequate contact with the gold on the
drive PCB. Have only seen one case where the cable was bad without any
visual damage. I believe that case was a result of the cable being
stressed at 90 degrees over too short a radius.

Overall, I like SATA cables. They don't interfere with the airflow in
the chassis (as do the PATA cables.







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    Re: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
Nik Simpson


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04-14-07 12:14 PM

willbill wrote:
> bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!
>
> i've come across connection issues
> with my (admittedly limited) use
> of SATA drives, both data and power,
> most recently power
>
> what an aggrevation!
>
> are others seeing this?
>

Yes, I think there is a special place in hell for the idiot who designed
the SATA connectors on the disk. I've given up, and when I build a PC I
install a drive housing that occupies 3x5.25" bays and gives me four hot
plug SATA bugs. Because of the way this is designed I've not had a
single problem with power or drive connectors since doing this. The one
I use is:


http://www.satadrives.com/sadrcafor4sa.html

--
Nik Simpson





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    Re: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
Arno Wagner


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04-14-07 12:14 PM

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Nik Simpson <n_simpson@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> willbill wrote: 
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Yes, I think there is a special place in hell for the idiot who designed
> the SATA connectors on the disk. I've given up, and when I build a PC I
> install a drive housing that occupies 3x5.25" bays and gives me four hot
> plug SATA bugs. Because of the way this is designed I've not had a
> single problem with power or drive connectors since doing this. The one
> I use is:


> http://www.satadrives.com/sadrcafor4sa.html

Hmm. I hope they improved their manufacturing. I had two of
these with a PCB manufaactured shoddily enough, that I got CRC
errors on some of the disks. These errors were severe
enough that disks dropped out of the RAID they were in and
vanished vcompletely when connecting them directly. Took
me a week to debug and then I just threw this trash out.

I was also quite unimpressed with the cooling.

Arno





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    Re: bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!  
Nik Simpson


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04-15-07 06:14 AM

Arno Wagner wrote:
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Nik Simpson <n_simpson@bellsouth.net> 
wrote: 
> 
>
> 
>
> Hmm. I hope they improved their manufacturing. I had two of
> these with a PCB manufaactured shoddily enough, that I got CRC
> errors on some of the disks. These errors were severe
> enough that disks dropped out of the RAID they were in and
> vanished vcompletely when connecting them directly. Took
> me a week to debug and then I just threw this trash out.
>
> I was also quite unimpressed with the cooling.
>
> Arno


I've got one that's been going about a year now, the other is more
recent. So far I've not had any problems with them. But there are other
products out there, maybe there are some better ones.

--
Nik Simpson





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