Hi all!

I recently uploaded OmniMix 1.0.1.

Changes:
- Bugfix: A parameter type incompatibility within Indy's SSL handling
caused range check exceptions noticed under Windows 9x.
- With a simultaneous retrieval of POP3 messages and NNTP nym mails
through one client connection now keep-alive commands are sent to
the inactive server to prevent a timeout.
- 'Implicit SSL' option added to the extended username syntax.
- GnuPG updated to version 1.4.7.

You'll find the new version at
http://www.danner-net.de/om/OmniMix..._Uno_Setup.exe.

Kind regards

Christian
--
OmniMix .. protect your privacy
http://www.danner-net.de/om.htm

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OmniMix <om@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I recently uploaded OmniMix 1.0.1.
>
> Changes:
> - Bugfix: A parameter type incompatibility within Indy's SSL handling
>   caused range check exceptions noticed under Windows 9x.
> - With a simultaneous retrieval of POP3 messages and NNTP nym mails
>   through one client connection now keep-alive commands are sent to
>   the inactive server to prevent a timeout.
> - 'Implicit SSL' option added to the extended username syntax.
> - GnuPG updated to version 1.4.7.

You're distributing GPL'd software with OmniMix, and don't release
source code?

Do you believe the GPL doesn't apply to you or your software packages
for some reason?

>
> You'll find the new version at
> http://www.danner-net.de/om/OmniMix..._Uno_Setup.exe.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Christian
> --
> OmniMix .. protect your privacy
> http://www.danner-net.de/om.htm
>

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OmniMix <om@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I recently uploaded OmniMix 1.0.1.
>
> Changes:
> - Bugfix: A parameter type incompatibility within Indy's SSL handling
>   caused range check exceptions noticed under Windows 9x.
> - With a simultaneous retrieval of POP3 messages and NNTP nym mails
>   through one client connection now keep-alive commands are sent to
>   the inactive server to prevent a timeout.
> - 'Implicit SSL' option added to the extended username syntax.
> - GnuPG updated to version 1.4.7.

Ahem.

If you're distributing/bundling or incorporating GPL'd software with
OmniMix and don't supply source code you're in direct violation of the
GPL. I'd wager not only GnuPG but also Hashcash and SSL are violations,
and that source code inclusion isn't the only type of violation you're
guilty of.

If you believe the GPL is unenforceable, you may be in for a rude
awakening. 

>
> You'll find the new version at
> http://www.danner-net.de/om/OmniMix..._Uno_Setup.exe.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Christian
> --
> OmniMix .. protect your privacy
> http://www.danner-net.de/om.htm
>

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George Orwell wrote:

> OmniMix <om@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:
> 
>
> You're distributing GPL'd software with OmniMix, and don't release
> source code?
>
> Do you believe the GPL doesn't apply to you or your software packages
> for some reason?

We've been through all this before. Danner believes two things above
all else:

1. He knows more about anonymous mail than the people who wrote the
software that makes it possible.

2. Common sense, courtesy, and the law are beneath him.

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In article < ce13317e10e0e70d94fe9e36d95b234e@mixmast
er.it>
George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> You're distributing GPL'd software with OmniMix, and don't release
> source code?
>
> Do you believe the GPL doesn't apply to you or your software packages
> for some reason?

Yes, I guess so. Many people have asked for the source code and have
been ignored.

The scary part is that even if he wasn't in violation of the GPL
(which he is), why would anyone use a software to protect their
anonymity when they can't even see what it does? Omnimix is, after
all, just a front end and the source code would not take long to check
through.

It's not just a trend for security or privacy software to release
source code, it's to bring confidence that there are no back doors too.

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> The scary part is that even if he wasn't in violation of the GPL
> (which he is), why would anyone use a software to protect their
> anonymity when they can't even see what it does? Omnimix is, after
> all, just a front end and the source code would not take long to check
> through.
>
> It's not just a trend for security or privacy software to release
> source code, it's to bring confidence that there are no back doors too.
>


I have never seen Quicksilver source code available neither.

Apologies if I am wrong.

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Anonyma wrote:
> In article < ce13317e10e0e70d94fe9e36d95b234e@mixmast
er.it>
> George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote: 
>
> Yes, I guess so. Many people have asked for the source code and have
> been ignored.
>
> The scary part is that even if he wasn't in violation of the GPL
> (which he is), why would anyone use a software to protect their
> anonymity when they can't even see what it does? Omnimix is, after
> all, just a front end and the source code would not take long to check
> through.
>
> It's not just a trend for security or privacy software to release
> source code, it's to bring confidence that there are no back doors too.

Maybe Chris wants the code to be more mature and cleaned up before he
releases it to the public. Give him time. It is not like he makes any
money off it! One of the reasons Richard stopped were reactions like
these. Don't you want any easy to use frontends to be developed? Plea
with the GnuPG team to release anonimity software. You will find you
will have a hard time doing this!

I myself would rather have GnuPG as a separate download so I can update
it myself when a new version comes out. And so it doesn't mess up my
current install (I have GnuPG 1.4.7 installed after all..)

Thomas
- --
"Forget it. I am taking my own chances now" - Dee, Mean Guns
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Anonymous wrote:
> OmniMix <om@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:
> 
>
> Ahem.
>
> If you're distributing/bundling or incorporating GPL'd software with
> OmniMix and don't supply source code you're in direct violation of the
> GPL. I'd wager not only GnuPG but also Hashcash and SSL are violations,
> and that source code inclusion isn't the only type of violation you're
> guilty of.
>
> If you believe the GPL is unenforceable, you may be in for a rude
> awakening. 

Apparently it is

http://www.jumaros.de/rsoft/faq.html#ge02

Regs,
Thomas
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"Forget it. I am taking my own chances now" - Dee, Mean Guns
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> I have never seen Quicksilver source code available neither.
>
> Apologies if I am wrong.

You're wrong. The source code is in the download directory.

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In article <462f2557$0$18626$e4fe514c@dreader16.news.xs4all.nl>
"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>
> Maybe Chris wants the code to be more mature and cleaned up before he
> releases it to the public. Give him time. It is not like he makes any

It's been years. The GPL doesn't give a time limit, it says that the
source code must be available to anybody that the binary is also
available to. It doesn't say you can wait 25 years before you hand it
over.

> money off it! One of the reasons Richard stopped were reactions like
> these. Don't you want any easy to use frontends to be developed? Plea
> with the GnuPG team to release anonimity software. You will find you
> will have a hard time doing this!

If you don't like the terms of the GPL and don't wish to abide by
them, then don't use GPL code for your software. Simple.

If you do use GPL code, abide by the rules of that code. It's not a
choice, it's a legal requirement.

I fail to see how you equate having a problem with someone abusing the
GPL and not releasing the source code as 'not wanting any frontends to
be developed'.

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