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    Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Igenlode Wordsmith


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04-27-07 06:12 AM

I seem to be having trouble posting to the moderated
news.groups.proposals via the bananasplit gateway again: it was working
before Christmas, but a subsequent message failed to go through, and
when I CC'd another attempt to my nym account, the copy arrived all
right but the message has not been posted; nor have I received a
rejection notice as I did on a previous occasion.

Message headers:

To: mail2news_nospam@bananasplit.info
Newsgroups: news.groups.proposals
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:47:25 +0100
Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.taino
References: <nan.20070424200925$1893@killfile.org> <Xns991CE6093ABC5mbeausym
paticoca@130.133.1.4>
Organization: The Ivory Tower ( http://ivory.150m.com/Tower )
Message-Id: <20070426040125.AFB34637FB@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at panta-rhei.dyndns.o
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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Zax


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04-27-07 12:11 PM

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:44:12 +0100, Igenlode Wordsmith wrote in
Message-Id: <20070427054024.0B64A638E6@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>:

> I seem to be having trouble posting to the moderated
> news.groups.proposals via the bananasplit gateway again: it was working
> before Christmas, but a subsequent message failed to go through, and
> when I CC'd another attempt to my nym account, the copy arrived all
> right but the message has not been posted; nor have I received a
> rejection notice as I did on a previous occasion.

Hi Igenlode,

Just checked back through the m2n history and found one reference to
news.groups.proposals for 25th Mar.  This message was accepted and
mailed to the moderator. I can only assume that for some reason they
haven't actioned it.  The mail2news has definitely done it's thing.

If you wanted, you could cut out the mail2news on moderated posts and
email (through your nym) the moderation relay directly.  In this
instance that would be news.groups.proposals@moderators.isc.org.
Certainly worth trying as a fault-finding exercise.

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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Igenlode Wordsmith


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05-20-07 12:13 AM

On 27 Apr 2007 Zax wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:44:12 +0100, Igenlode Wordsmith wrote in
> Message-Id: <20070427054024.0B64A638E6@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>:
> 
>
> Hi Igenlode,

(Can you confirm whether you ever got my email reply of 28th April to
this article via your admin address? I know that it was mostly an
unhelpfully depressed rant, but I can't help wondering if whatever-it-is
that is apparently stopping my messages going through the gateway is
affecting other addresses on that domain as well.)

>
> Just checked back through the m2n history and found one reference to
> news.groups.proposals for 25th Mar.  This message was accepted and
> mailed to the moderator. I can only assume that for some reason they
> haven't actioned it.  The mail2news has definitely done it's thing.

I've lost two more messages since then: they're not going through for
some reason :-(

(And I'm not getting rejection messages to the Reply-To either, which I
did for an earlier message (1 Feb) that was explicitly rejected.)

There should have been one attempt on April 26th
Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.taino
Message-Id: <20070426040125.AFB34637FB@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>
which I know was sent correctly since I BCC'd it to myself and it duly
arrived there -- but not on the group! -- and more attempts on May
9th/10th with the subject "Re: Policy RFD: removing
extremely-low-traffic unmoderated groups" and Message-id
<20070510113018.30C4063DAC@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>, which I
know arrived since it was CC'd to the author of the article in question,
who replied by email, and on May 17th with the subject "Re: Policy RFD:
removing extremely-low-traffic unmoderated groups" (Message-id unknown,
since I didn't take the precaution of BCC'ing that one to myself)

None of these messages ever appeared on the moderated group and none of
them ever received rejection messages.  For some confusing reason it
appears to be impossible to post to this specific group via the
Bananasplit gateway :-(

>
> If you wanted, you could cut out the mail2news on moderated posts and
> email (through your nym) the moderation relay directly.  In this
> instance that would be news.groups.proposals@moderators.isc.org.
> Certainly worth trying as a fault-finding exercise.
>
I don't want to do this for simple spam-exposure reasons -- since as you
know, it is impossible to 'mail-wash' a nym address :-(

I've tried it via webmail, and it works as a means of last resort; but
in addition to being inconvenient (as it requires me to work online
and means that I can't use my standard news client), since I can't paste
in the References: header, it destroys the threading and makes me look
like an incompetent :-(
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Igenlode Wordsmith                                     Lurker Extraordinaire

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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer


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05-20-07 12:13 AM

On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:39:21 +0100, Igenlode Wordsmith wrote:

> I've tried it via webmail, and it works as a means of last resort; but
> in addition to being inconvenient (as it requires me to work online
> and means that I can't use my standard news client), since I can't paste
> in the References: header, it destroys the threading and makes me look
> like an incompetent :-(

Try the eelbash webmail utility:

http://eelbash.yi.org:8080/scriptes/remail.php

Not only does it allow you to enter a references header, it sends the
message directly to the newsgroup, so you should see it on the newsgroup
within seconds of sending it.






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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Borked Pseudo Mailed


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05-20-07 12:13 AM

Eelbash Admin (pretending not to be eelbash) wrote:
>
> Try the eelbash webmail utility:
>
> Not only does it allow you to enter a references header, it sends the
> message directly to the newsgroup, so you should see it on the newsgroup
> within seconds of sending it.

That would be a great way to ruin your anonymity. Thanks for reminding
everyone how we shouldn't do things.






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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer


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05-20-07 12:13 AM

On Sat, 19 May 2007 14:45:31 -0600, Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:

> Eelbash Admin (pretending not to be eelbash) wrote: 
>
> That would be a great way to ruin your anonymity. Thanks for reminding
> everyone how we shouldn't do things.

Anybody who uses any webmail interface without going through tor is a
nudnik.












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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
abeT@me.com


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05-20-07 12:13 AM

On 19 May 2007 21:13:49 +0200, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:39:21 +0100, Igenlode Wordsmith wrote:
> 

Ever think of downloading a free newsreader like Free Agent or Xnews, or
a number of other freebies.  That is the real solution of your problem
without getting entangled with that swine eelbash.

Here is a group that can advise you on freebie newsreaders

news.software.readers







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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Non scrivetemi


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05-20-07 12:13 AM

In article < fd956b488d23f31734317372d6c75919@remaile
r.cyberiade.it>
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer <anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:39:21 +0100, Igenlode Wordsmith wrote:
> 
>
> Try the eelbash webmail utility:
>
> http://eelbash.yi.org:8080/scriptes/remail.php
>
> Not only does it allow you to enter a references header, it sends the
> message directly to the newsgroup, so you should see it on the newsgroup
> within seconds of sending it.

Newer group members would do well to check out exactly who/what eelbash
is.

The eelbash/cheshire/bogg/asmodeous Chronicles
http://www.cotse.net/users/bluejay/...claration2.html













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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Non scrivetemi


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05-20-07 12:13 AM

On Sat, 19 May 2007 17:15:55 -0500, abeT wrote:

> On 19 May 2007 21:13:49 +0200, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
> <anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:
> 
>
> Ever think of downloading a free newsreader like Free Agent or Xnews, or
> a number of other freebies.  That is the real solution of your problem
> without getting entangled with that swine eelbash.

Oy Gewalt!

>
> Here is a group that can advise you on freebie newsreaders
>
> news.software.readers


















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    Re: Trouble posting to news.groups.proposals again  
Borked Pseudo Mailed


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05-20-07 12:13 AM

In article < 10da4dd746e476fa36fcfa2ec5d43a8f@pboxmix
.winstonsmith.info>
"Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote:
>
> In article < fd956b488d23f31734317372d6c75919@remaile
r.cyberiade.it>
> Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer <anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote: 
>
> Newer group members would do well to

Stay away from the obsessed blueloser.


> http://www.cotse.net/users/bluejay/XXXXXXX.html





















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