I posted a message to 7 groups initially on April 10 detailing my
experiences with privacy.li and how they scammed me. I'm not 100%
confident that this message is strictly on-topic in all of these
groups, but I'm trying my best. They were all suggested as privacy
related groups by Google Groups. I'm not trying to spam anyone. I post
relatively infrequently, so I don't think this should be a burden to
anyone.

There have been some developments since my last post. I was ready to
drop this whole thing until the guys at privacy.li started showing
their true colors.

First of all, they posted my personal information (or at least what
they thought was my information) on alt.privacy and alt.privacy.anon-
server. They posted what they thought was my IP address (turned out to
actually be a Tor exit node) and other information. The link to this
is http://groups.google.com/group/alt....f73504778872530
using Google Groups.

The point of all this is that this is an anonymity/privacy service
that has no reservations about releasing personal info about their
customers. To those who don't understand how a proxy service works, in
essence, the proxy service becomes your surrogate ISP. The sites you
visit don't know who you are but a proxy service like privacy.li knows
exactly who you are and what websites you visit, etc.

They've proven they have no hesitation whatsoever in releasing this
private data. The point is, I was cautious in dealing with them, and
it paid off. If you sign up with them, you may just be putting your
livelihood (or even your life) in their hands. Don't take this
lightly. They've proven how untrustworthy and dishonest (and even
stupid) they are.

The post from the privacy.li admin serves a dual purpose. It not only
shows the character of these people but it shows that I'm not just
making this stuff up. They've, in essence, verified all the details
I've posted as accurate.

This is just the first part of the story. The second part also has to
do with the character of the people at privacy.li. I've posted all of
the details on the TrueCrypt forums ( http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtop...?t=
5893
) and on the Wilders Security forums ( http://www.wilderssecurity.com/show.../>
hp?p=994124
). The details are in my 2 posts dated today (April 30, 2007). I just
don't want to repost all the details here. It has to do with how the
guys at privacy.li submitted my e-mail address to numerous scam/spam
sites and about the e-mails I've received due to their actions. I'm
sure they had no way of knowing this, but I can show fairly
conclusively that it was them and only them who could have submitted
my e-mail address to those sites. And the dates of those scam e-mails
correspond very well with the date I first posted on usenet (April 10,
2007). Read the forums for the details.

I will also update my website ( http://screwprivacy.li.freewebspace.com/
) to reflect this new information right after I finish this post. Keep
in mind that this is free web hosting, so I cannot control any
problems that may occur after visiting the site. I don't think there's
anything wrong with the site or any malware. I'm fairly technically
savvy, and I haven't experienced any problems. If you have any
reservations about it, just read the TrueCrypt and Wilders Security
forums. It's the same information (although I would like to boost
traffic to my site to help spread the word).

Thanks for reading. I hope it's clear that I'm being honest in my
posts, and I have nothing to gain by this except for spreading the
word, and helping people avoid the problems I've experienced.

Beware

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Addendum: My website http://screwprivacy.li.freewebspace.com/ has been
removed for whatever reason. I won't bother to rebuild it, but I will
still provide updates as new developments occur.

Thanks for reading.

yh7t78@yahoo.com wrote:
> I posted a message to 7 groups initially on April 10 detailing my
> experiences with privacy.li and how they scammed me. I'm not 100%
> confident that this message is strictly on-topic in all of these
> groups, but I'm trying my best. They were all suggested as privacy
> related groups by Google Groups. I'm not trying to spam anyone. I post
> relatively infrequently, so I don't think this should be a burden to
> anyone.
>
> There have been some developments since my last post. I was ready to
> drop this whole thing until the guys at privacy.li started showing
> their true colors.
>
> First of all, they posted my personal information (or at least what
> they thought was my information) on alt.privacy and alt.privacy.anon-
> server. They posted what they thought was my IP address (turned out to
> actually be a Tor exit node) and other information. The link to this
> is http://groups.google.com/group/alt....f73504778872530
> using Google Groups.
>
> The point of all this is that this is an anonymity/privacy service
> that has no reservations about releasing personal info about their
> customers. To those who don't understand how a proxy service works, in
> essence, the proxy service becomes your surrogate ISP. The sites you
> visit don't know who you are but a proxy service like privacy.li knows
> exactly who you are and what websites you visit, etc.
>
> They've proven they have no hesitation whatsoever in releasing this
> private data. The point is, I was cautious in dealing with them, and
> it paid off. If you sign up with them, you may just be putting your
> livelihood (or even your life) in their hands. Don't take this
> lightly. They've proven how untrustworthy and dishonest (and even
> stupid) they are.
>
> The post from the privacy.li admin serves a dual purpose. It not only
> shows the character of these people but it shows that I'm not just
> making this stuff up. They've, in essence, verified all the details
> I've posted as accurate.
>
> This is just the first part of the story. The second part also has to
> do with the character of the people at privacy.li. I've posted all of
> the details on the TrueCrypt forums ( http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtop...?
t=5893
> ) and on the Wilders Security forums ( http://www.wilderssecurity.com/show...
.php?p=994124
> ). The details are in my 2 posts dated today (April 30, 2007). I just
> don't want to repost all the details here. It has to do with how the
> guys at privacy.li submitted my e-mail address to numerous scam/spam
> sites and about the e-mails I've received due to their actions. I'm
> sure they had no way of knowing this, but I can show fairly
> conclusively that it was them and only them who could have submitted
> my e-mail address to those sites. And the dates of those scam e-mails
> correspond very well with the date I first posted on usenet (April 10,
> 2007). Read the forums for the details.
>
> I will also update my website ( http://screwprivacy.li.freewebspace.com/
> ) to reflect this new information right after I finish this post. Keep
> in mind that this is free web hosting, so I cannot control any
> problems that may occur after visiting the site. I don't think there's
> anything wrong with the site or any malware. I'm fairly technically
> savvy, and I haven't experienced any problems. If you have any
> reservations about it, just read the TrueCrypt and Wilders Security
> forums. It's the same information (although I would like to boost
> traffic to my site to help spread the word).
>
> Thanks for reading. I hope it's clear that I'm being honest in my
> posts, and I have nothing to gain by this except for spreading the
> word, and helping people avoid the problems I've experienced.
>
> Beware

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lol, i don't care what is between you and privacy.li, but you're a sick
pervert. Leave the newsgroups clean from your pathetic story.

Why don't you contact a lawyer and make it a case ? if you can find
anyone who will defend someone who gets off on dead corpses and women
getting raped. Or did you forgot to tell that part also on the forums ?


yh7t78@yahoo.com wrote:
> Addendum: My website http://screwprivacy.li.freewebspace.com/ has been
> removed for whatever reason. I won't bother to rebuild it, but I will
> still provide updates as new developments occur.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> yh7t78@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>
>

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nospam <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> lol, i don't care what is between you and privacy.li, but you're a sick
> pervert. Leave the newsgroups clean from your pathetic story.

Talk about desperation.

Here's a free clue asswipe: WE care about ripoff scam artists like you,
and WE enjoy watching you XXXX yourself with the things you do like
posting personal information, tracking down users, and the illiterate
trolls you post here.

What we DON'T care about is what you're trying to deflect attention to,
the sites the guy was trying to subscribe to.

> Why don't you contact a lawyer and make it a case ? if you can find
> anyone who will defend someone who gets off on dead corpses and women
> getting raped. Or did you forgot to tell that part also on the forums ?

Yup, desperate. Sure sign they guy has you dead to rights. You're
buggered and you know it, and this is your last ditch effort to try and
make it all just go away.

Sorry about your luck asswipe. Not going to happen. 

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Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Talk about desperation.
>
> Here's a free clue asswipe: WE care about ripoff scam artists like you,
> and WE enjoy watching you XXXX yourself with the things you do like
> posting personal information, tracking down users, and the illiterate
> trolls you post here.
>
> What we DON'T care about is what you're trying to deflect attention to,
> the sites the guy was trying to subscribe to.
>
> 
>
>
> Yup, desperate. Sure sign they guy has you dead to rights. You're
> buggered and you know it, and this is your last ditch effort to try and
> make it all just go away.
>
> Sorry about your luck asswipe. Not going to happen. 
>

Well, same old puppet as always, trying to setup people against each
other in this newsgroup. Anyway, as most people visiting this newsgroup
i can say to you: be gone and get a job 

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On 30 Apr 2007 05:05:19 -0700, yh7t78@yahoo.com wrote:

> I posted a message to 7 groups initially on April 10 detailing my
> experiences with privacy.li and how they scammed me. I'm not 100%
> confident that this message is strictly on-topic in all of these
> groups, but I'm trying my best. They were all suggested as privacy
> related groups by Google Groups. I'm not trying to spam anyone. I post
> relatively infrequently, so I don't think this should be a burden to
> anyone.
>
> There have been some developments since my last post. I was ready to
> drop this whole thing until the guys at privacy.li started showing
> their true colors.
>
> First of all, they posted my personal information (or at least what
> they thought was my information) on alt.privacy and alt.privacy.anon-
> server. They posted what they thought was my IP address (turned out to
> actually be a Tor exit node) and other information. The link to this
> is http://groups.google.com/group/alt....f73504778872530
> using Google Groups.
>
> The point of all this is that this is an anonymity/privacy service
> that has no reservations about releasing personal info about their
> customers. To those who don't understand how a proxy service works, in
> essence, the proxy service becomes your surrogate ISP. The sites you
> visit don't know who you are but a proxy service like privacy.li knows
> exactly who you are and what websites you visit, etc.
>
> They've proven they have no hesitation whatsoever in releasing this
> private data. The point is, I was cautious in dealing with them, and
> it paid off. If you sign up with them, you may just be putting your
> livelihood (or even your life) in their hands. Don't take this
> lightly. They've proven how untrustworthy and dishonest (and even
> stupid) they are.
>
> The post from the privacy.li admin serves a dual purpose. It not only
> shows the character of these people but it shows that I'm not just
> making this stuff up. They've, in essence, verified all the details
> I've posted as accurate.
>
> This is just the first part of the story. The second part also has to
> do with the character of the people at privacy.li. I've posted all of
> the details on the TrueCrypt forums ( http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtop...?
t=5893
> ) and on the Wilders Security forums ( http://www.wilderssecurity.com/show...
.php?p=994124
> ). The details are in my 2 posts dated today (April 30, 2007). I just
> don't want to repost all the details here. It has to do with how the
> guys at privacy.li submitted my e-mail address to numerous scam/spam
> sites and about the e-mails I've received due to their actions. I'm
> sure they had no way of knowing this, but I can show fairly
> conclusively that it was them and only them who could have submitted
> my e-mail address to those sites. And the dates of those scam e-mails
> correspond very well with the date I first posted on usenet (April 10,
> 2007). Read the forums for the details.
>
> I will also update my website ( http://screwprivacy.li.freewebspace.com/
> ) to reflect this new information right after I finish this post. Keep
> in mind that this is free web hosting, so I cannot control any
> problems that may occur after visiting the site. I don't think there's
> anything wrong with the site or any malware. I'm fairly technically
> savvy, and I haven't experienced any problems. If you have any
> reservations about it, just read the TrueCrypt and Wilders Security
> forums. It's the same information (although I would like to boost
> traffic to my site to help spread the word).
>
> Thanks for reading. I hope it's clear that I'm being honest in my
> posts, and I have nothing to gain by this except for spreading the
> word, and helping people avoid the problems I've experienced.
>
> Beware

Was this post about your private information signed by anyone? Probably
not. It's more likely you posted it yourself and when you figured out you
posted a Tor exit node tried to blame it on others as if they didn't know
what it was, like you didn't.

So what about the rest of the info?

Flush/Spammer/Anono perv

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What?!

Does any of what you're saying actually make sense to you? You're
saying I posted that info myself.

Are you just trying to say anything to mount some type of argument,
regardless of how little sense it makes. Does everyone here work for
privacy.li or is there just a complete lack of common sense?

For those of you that can't talk about anything but the websites. Get
a clue. What I do is irrelevant. This is a privacy newsgroup. We're
here to discuss privacy.li, not me. Even if you don't like me, that
does nothing to alter the fact that I've meticulously detailed
unethical, unscrupulous, and possibly illegal behavior by privacy.li
in the following ways:

1. They can and will rip you off.
2. They can and will post, sell, or otherwise give away your personal
information if it suits their purposes. They will do this without
hesitation and will even brag about it.
3. They will use any means within their power to intimidate or harass
someone who objects to their business practices.

These are the relevant issues, not personal issues you have with me.

Beware



traveller 66 wrote:
> On 30 Apr 2007 05:05:19 -0700, yh7t78@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>
> Was this post about your private information signed by anyone? Probably
> not. It's more likely you posted it yourself and when you figured out you
> posted a Tor exit node tried to blame it on others as if they didn't know
> what it was, like you didn't.
>
> So what about the rest of the info?
>
> Flush/Spammer/Anono perv

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yh7t78@yahoo.com wrote:
> What?!
>
> Does any of what you're saying actually make sense to you? You're
> saying I posted that info myself.
>
> Are you just trying to say anything to mount some type of argument,
> regardless of how little sense it makes. Does everyone here work for
> privacy.li or is there just a complete lack of common sense?
>
> For those of you that can't talk about anything but the websites. Get
> a clue. What I do is irrelevant. This is a privacy newsgroup. We're
> here to discuss privacy.li, not me. Even if you don't like me, that
> does nothing to alter the fact that I've meticulously detailed
> unethical, unscrupulous, and possibly illegal behavior by privacy.li
> in the following ways:
>
> 1. They can and will rip you off.
> 2. They can and will post, sell, or otherwise give away your personal
> information if it suits their purposes. They will do this without
> hesitation and will even brag about it.
> 3. They will use any means within their power to intimidate or harass
> someone who objects to their business practices.
>
> These are the relevant issues, not personal issues you have with me.
>
> Beware
>
>
>
> traveller 66 wrote:
> 
>
>



Please go get off on dead bodies and women getting raped pervert. I
wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. I really hope you have no kids
or any kids around you.

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I don't get off on either of those things or otherwise find them
arousing.

Just for the record. That's the truth, whether you choose to believe
it or not.

I don't see any need to go into further detail.

Would you like to get back to the topic at hand?


nospam wrote:
> yh7t78@yahoo.com wrote: 
>
>
>
> Please go get off on dead bodies and women getting raped pervert. I
> wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. I really hope you have no kids
> or any kids around you.

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<snipped>

> Please go get off on dead bodies and women getting raped pervert. I
> wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. I really hope you have no kids
> or any kids around you.

Same here



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