unfortunately there are no CLECs in the area from what we are aware of. and 
I'm not sure they would have a different path. I believe it will be copper P
RIs right from the telco, but you never know when that might change.

we also have our WAN link - and it might be that our HQ service provider wil
l be able to effectively route 911 calls to the correct PSAP even though it'
s a different area code.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Fred Nielsen 
To: 'Voll, Scott' ; 'Lelio Fulgenzi' ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] extra analog lines for 911 where a PRI exists 
-makessense?


I partially disagree.  A lot of new PRIs are provisioned over some sort of f
iber mux in many areas these days that at least gets it close, if not comple
tely run up to, the demarc point.  This provides a different path over what 
many 1MBs are still provisioned over.  Also many telco's provision 1MBs from
 different equipment in the CO than PRIs.  I have experienced many situation
s where T1s are dropped but analog lines remain in service.  

That being said, I've also seen my share of the opposite where everything (i
ncluding fiber lines) are taken out by accident.  A better bet is to talk to
 your carrier about some kind of path diversity for your existing PRIs, or i
f unavailable from a single carrier, seek a second PRI from a different carr
ier that may be able to offer it.  This all typically costs money or time, a
s a second carrier/CLEC by default will tend to provision your PRIs over the
 same loop entrance as the ILEC for the area and will want to charge additio
nal install $ for different loop arrangements.

At the end of the day, you need to do some homework to see how your current 
T1s are brought in from the CO, and then see what alternatives paths (T1 or 
analog) might exist.  Good luck.



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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck
.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:24 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] extra analog lines for 911 where a PRI exists 
-makessense?


NOPE.. If the construction working takes the Telco Copper run out, everythin
g goes down.

 

Scott


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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck
.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:19 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] extra analog lines for 911 where a PRI exists - ma
kessense?

 

Just wondering if anyone can help me justify ordering a couple of analog lin
es for 911 service which will go into the same router and be serviced by the
 same local telephone switch and likely be carried over the same path as the
 PRIs. I already have two single port PRI cards to protect against single po
int of failure of the PRI card. But in the end, if the router goes down, it'
s down. 

 

Anyone ever see a PRI port go down but FXO ports stay up?

 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
..there's no such thing as a bad timbit...

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