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    Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
pax


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04-20-04 07:35 PM

I've had some experience with ASP using WinXP's own IIS.
This was really easy to get into, but I've heard that Apache's own
web-server is better - so here I am.

Don't know anything about Apache, where to start, what I need, etc...

Tried to browse their page but got more confused and lost in the sea of
information.

What do I need to get an Apache web-server up and running on my WinXP ?

Thanks!







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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
pax


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04-20-04 08:33 PM

See below:

"pax" <paxelius@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40856c6d@news.broadpark.no...
> I've had some experience with ASP using WinXP's own IIS.
> This was really easy to get into, but I've heard that Apache's own
> web-server is better - so here I am.
>
> Don't know anything about Apache, where to start, what I need, etc...
>
> Tried to browse their page but got more confused and lost in the sea of
> information.
>
> What do I need to get an Apache web-server up and running on my WinXP ?
>
> Thanks!
>

Ok, I finally managed to find the file "apache_2.0.49-win32-x86-no_ssl.msi"
which I belive
is what I need to substitue IIS. While installing (right at the beginning) I
am asked to enter
my server's information, ie.:
* Domain name
* Server Name
* Administrator Email

Already I am dumbfounded! (Remember I'm a newbie 

I don't owe a domain yet and I have no clue what to type here--
(Can't recall that I needed to setup this type of info with IIS)

Help anyone?







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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
P Bourne


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04-20-04 09:33 PM

pax wrote:

> See below:
>
> "pax" <paxelius@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40856c6d@news.broadpark.no...
> 
>
>
> Ok, I finally managed to find the file "apache_2.0.49-win32-x86-no_ssl.msi
"
> which I belive
> is what I need to substitue IIS. While installing (right at the beginning)
 I
> am asked to enter
> my server's information, ie.:
> * Domain name
> * Server Name
> * Administrator Email
>
> Already I am dumbfounded! (Remember I'm a newbie 
>
> I don't owe a domain yet and I have no clue what to type here--
> (Can't recall that I needed to setup this type of info with IIS)

You can get yourself a domain at a free site like no-ip.org, there is an
abundance of similar services out there. You'll need to tell them your
IP address or use a tool that some provide to report your current IP to
the DNS servers.

Once you've got your domain you would put that information above. The
http.conf file.

If you're just going to server from your IP address you can put that
information in there.

PB





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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
P Bourne


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04-20-04 09:33 PM

P Bourne wrote:

>
> The
> http.conf file.

Sorry, ignore this.





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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
pax


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04-20-04 10:33 PM


"P Bourne" <pj.ntl@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> pax wrote:
> 
"apache_2.0.49-win32-x86-no_ssl.msi"[vbcol=seagreen] 
beginning) I[vbcol=seagreen] 
>
> You can get yourself a domain at a free site like no-ip.org, there is an
> abundance of similar services out there. You'll need to tell them your
> IP address or use a tool that some provide to report your current IP to
> the DNS servers.
>
> Once you've got your domain you would put that information above. The
> http.conf file.
>
> If you're just going to server from your IP address you can put that
> information in there.
>
> PB

Thanks for the info! I'm currently exploring no-ip.org







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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
pax


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04-20-04 11:33 PM

See below:

"P Bourne" <pj.ntl@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:m5fhc.301$vf.4@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net...
> pax wrote:
> 
"apache_2.0.49-win32-x86-no_ssl.msi"[vbcol=seagreen] 
beginning) I[vbcol=seagreen] 
>
> You can get yourself a domain at a free site like no-ip.org, there is an
> abundance of similar services out there. You'll need to tell them your
> IP address or use a tool that some provide to report your current IP to
> the DNS servers.
>
> Once you've got your domain you would put that information above. The
> http.conf file.
>

> If you're just going to server from your IP address you can put that
> information in there.
>
> PB

Well, now I've registered an account with no-ip.com, but as far as I
can tell the only thing I can do which doesn't cost money is to add a
host. But what exactly does this mean ?

I need a hostname (which I understand is any name of my desire)
then I must choose Host Type and IP adress.

Wonder if you can help me out here with some questions here ?
1) What Host Type should I use ?
2) My ip-address on internett is different from my ipconfig.
What should I use ?

Thank you !








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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
P Bourne


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04-21-04 08:33 AM

pax wrote:

> Well, now I've registered an account with no-ip.com, but as far as I
> can tell the only thing I can do which doesn't cost money is to add a
> host. But what exactly does this mean ?

The host name is what you'll be entering as your domain in the apache
set-up. If you're looking for something like www.yourname.com, you'll
probably have to pay.

> I need a hostname (which I understand is any name of my desire)
> then I must choose Host Type and IP adress.
>
> Wonder if you can help me out here with some questions here ?
> 1) What Host Type should I use ?

For now just go for DNS Host (A). There are question marks against the
host type lists, these will provide more information.

> 2) My ip-address on internett is different from my ipconfig.
> What should I use ?

I can't tell you what your IP is, experiment. The DNS service updates
every 5 minutes so it shouldn't be too much of a nuisance to try both.
You can tell if the DNS service has actually updated by typing "ping
yourhostnamehere" at the command prompt.

PB





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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
Denis Campbell


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04-21-04 09:33 AM

"pax" schrieb:

> See below:
>
> "pax" <paxelius@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40856c6d@news.broadpark.no... 
>
> Ok, I finally managed to find the file
> "apache_2.0.49-win32-x86-no_ssl.msi" which I belive
> is what I need to substitue IIS. While installing (right at the
> beginning) I am asked to enter
> my server's information, ie.:
> * Domain name
> * Server Name
> * Administrator Email

You'll probably want your Apache to serve as a local Development-Server
on your WinXP an not to expose it to the internet. Try this:

domainname: localhost or 127.0.0.1
Servername: localhost or 127.0.0.1
Adminemail: your mail (actually there's no real need to set this up)

Fur further info look here:
http://www.google.com/search?
q=install+apache+tutorial&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

cheers
Denis





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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
pax


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04-21-04 03:34 PM


"P Bourne" <pj.ntl@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> pax wrote:
> 
>
> The host name is what you'll be entering as your domain in the apache
> set-up. If you're looking for something like www.yourname.com, you'll
> probably have to pay.
> 
>
> For now just go for DNS Host (A). There are question marks against the
> host type lists, these will provide more information.
> 
>
> I can't tell you what your IP is, experiment. The DNS service updates
> every 5 minutes so it shouldn't be too much of a nuisance to try both.
> You can tell if the DNS service has actually updated by typing "ping
> yourhostnamehere" at the command prompt.
>
> PB

Thanks again for your kind help, I've added a Host now.
When I try to type in the full name in URL I get this:
The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site
might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your
browser settings.


Which is fine, I guess, because I haven't made a deafult web-page yet.

I have downloaded the no-ip dynamic update client and it seems to
work well, but what I don't get is - How do I make my web-pages
accessible from this new host-address of mine ?

The idea is to use Apache, but let's first try to get this right with IIS.
I want my web-pages in my Inetpub, wwwroot to be available in
my new host - How do I achieve this ?







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    Re: Newbie: Where do I start ?!  
pax


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04-21-04 03:34 PM


"Denis Campbell" <dcahhNOSPAM@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> "pax" schrieb:
> 
>
> You'll probably want your Apache to serve as a local Development-Server
> on your WinXP an not to expose it to the internet. Try this:
>
> domainname: localhost or 127.0.0.1
> Servername: localhost or 127.0.0.1
> Adminemail: your mail (actually there's no real need to set this up)
>
> Fur further info look here:
> http://www.google.com/search?
> q=install+apache+tutorial&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>
> cheers
> Denis

Thank you, yes - I want to build web-pages on my local 'virtual' webserver
and then 'upload' them to my new host at no-ip.com so that people from
all over the world can access my pages, even though I don't owe a domain.

But I'm not sure I understand what needs to be done now, my host is ready
but how can I redirect people to my 'protected' virtual webserver and it's
pages?







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