Look folks, I don't want to start a argument here, so please, lets
keep it nice and easy, k?
Here is my problem, I am not champion programmer and I like keeping my
hands clean when I work, so I am looking for a IDE that will be easy
to use and free [ i.e. Dev-Cpp ]. I tried Anjuta, but for some reason
the documentation is a bit off, to say the least, and I could not
compile and run a simple 'hello' program. I like KDevelop, but it is
not a FSF. What I'd like is an IDE that only requires me to click on
run and 'it' will just do the magic. No more make.this, or
Makefile.that, none of that stuff. Here is the twist, I would like
this IDE to be free!!

Is there such a thing in Linux? there must be at least one!!

Thanks folks

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jamiil writes:
> I like KDevelop, but it is not a FSF.

What is an FSF?
--
John Hasler

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jamiil wrote:
> Look folks, I don't want to start a argument here, so please, lets
> keep it nice and easy, k?
> Here is my problem, I am not champion programmer and I like keeping my
> hands clean when I work, so I am looking for a IDE that will be easy
> to use and free [ i.e. Dev-Cpp ]. I tried Anjuta, but for some reason
> the documentation is a bit off, to say the least, and I could not
> compile and run a simple 'hello' program. I like KDevelop, but it is
> not a FSF. What I'd like is an IDE that only requires me to click on
> run and 'it' will just do the magic. No more make.this, or
> Makefile.that, none of that stuff. Here is the twist, I would like
> this IDE to be free!!
>
> Is there such a thing in Linux? there must be at least one!!

What is/are your target language(s)?
By 'FSF' do you mean Free Software Foundation?
tim (vim,emacs,xemacs => C/C++,python,rebol,javascript)

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On May 7, 7:19 am, Tim Johnson <t...@johnsons-web.com> wrote:
> jamiil wrote: 
> 
>
>   What is/are your target language(s)?
>   By 'FSF' do you mean Free Software Foundation?
>   tim (vim,emacs,xemacs => C/C++,python,rebol,javascript)

Oops sorry, I did not disclosed a vital piece of information, yes! C/C+
+.
Some times I forget the there world actually use other programing
languages. Sorry again, but there you have it now, it is for C/C++
programming language.

Thanks!

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On May 7, 8:52 am, John Hasler <jhas...@debian.org> wrote:
> jamiil writes: 
>
> What is an FSF?
> --
> John Hasler

It stands for Free Software Foundation.
Have a good one!

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jamiil writes:
> I like KDevelop, but it is not a FSF.

I wrote:
> What is an FSF?

jamiil writes:
> It stands for Free Software Foundation.

Are you trying to say that you object to Kdevelop because the copyright is
not owned by the FSF?  If so why don't you object to the Linux kernel or
The X Window System or to Iceweasel, all of which you use to post here?
--
John Hasler

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On May 6, 10:45 pm, jamiil <jalqa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Look folks, I don't want to start a argument here, so please, lets
> keep it nice and easy, k?
> Here is my problem, I am not champion programmer and I like keeping my
> hands clean when I work, so I am looking for a IDE that will be easy
> to use and free [ i.e. Dev-Cpp ]. I tried Anjuta, but for some reason
> the documentation is a bit off, to say the least, and I could not
> compile and run a simple 'hello' program. I like KDevelop, but it is
> not a FSF. What I'd like is an IDE that only requires me to click on
> run and 'it' will just do the magic. No more make.this, or
> Makefile.that, none of that stuff. Here is the twist, I would like
> this IDE to be free!!
>
> Is there such a thing in Linux? there must be at least one!!
>
> Thanks folks

I am sorry folks, I have just realize that the GUI tool kit I will be
using is GTK/GTKmm.

Thanks

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jamiil wrote:
> On May 7, 8:52 am, John Hasler <jhas...@debian.org> wrote: 
>
> It stands for Free Software Foundation.
> Have a good one!
>
Howdy:
If you want to use a FSF IDE - then it will be
Emacs
------
You haven't told me what you want to program in.
If you use
Emacs
------
Then you will have to learn to program in both
the language that you choice *and* elisp - to
make emacs do what you *really* want it to do.
My recommendations - if you are a beginning coder:
-----------------------------------------------------------
Use kdevelop if you're using any of the languages supported
by kdevelop.
------------------------------------------------------------
FYI:
I *am* a dedicated FSF user and an emacs user, but to get
started on a *pure* FSF path, you are either brilliant,
in which case we might want to hire you or you're cruz'in for
a bruz'in, in which case - at this distance - there ain't much
I kin do 4 u.
tim

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jamiil wrote:
> On May 6, 10:45 pm, jamiil <jalqa...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
> I am sorry folks, I have just realize that the GUI tool kit I will be
> using is GTK/GTKmm.
Hi Jamil:
I missed this reply prior to my previous reply to your post.
FSF is a wonderful principle, but do yourself a favor and try
something out of the box like kdevelop. I think it will do what
you want it do and will make it easier for you to concentrate on the
code.

If you really support the FSF, don't feel bad about this, just send
them some money - any amount will do and you can then feel good about
supporting them. Check out the gdb book, by buying that, you can
provide the support and get a great book for your library.

As you become more proficient, then try out emacs...
cheers and best of luck!
tim

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After takin' a swig o' grog, jamiil belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> Here is my problem, I am not champion programmer and I like keeping my
> hands clean when I work, so I am looking for a IDE that will be easy
> to use and free [ i.e. Dev-Cpp ]. I tried Anjuta, but for some reason
> the documentation is a bit off, to say the least, and I could not
> compile and run a simple 'hello' program.

Which version of Anjuta?  Version 2 is a pretty big change from version
1, as I understand it.

> I like KDevelop, but it is not a FSF.
> What I'd like is an IDE that only requires me to click on
> run and 'it' will just do the magic.

Even Visual Studio (Microsoft) won't do that.  You still have to figure
out the environment and understand what it is doing.

> No more make.this, or
> Makefile.that, none of that stuff. Here is the twist, I would like
> this IDE to be free!!

Actually, you are better off learning the rudiments of makefiles and
autoconf, automake, and the rest of the GNU autotools.  Both KDevelop
and Anjuta use them under the hood.

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The three Rs of Microsoft support: Retry, Reboot, Reinstall.

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