Hi,

I have stopped using Debian Sarge for quite some time. Reason: The
Desktop IU did not look good. Windows and text look very rough at
1024x768.

Recently, I am testing out some distro, OpenSUSE, FC6 and of course
Debian Etch. To my surprise, the UI has improved a lot. I can even get
1280x1024 on my hardware. If I am not mistaken, my graphics card can
only support 1024x768 max. That's miracle. Could anyone explain this
phenomenon? Great job!

Although I have a few Linux boxes and Solaris (SPARC) running, my
major platform is Mac OS X which I use everyday. I setup everything so
that I can do Remote Desktop Login and/or tunnel X over SSH.
Everything is fine.

But I am not able to perform Remote Desktop Login on Debian Etch. The
window shows up with X cursor but no login manager. I am using KDM (I
think, I dpkg-reconfigure gdm and/or dpkg-reconfigure kdm and select
kdm; I have install kdm and kde). I have follow all the setup steps as
in:

http://adrianhoe.com/adrianhoe/2006...login-from-mac/

What have I missed here? Please help. I wish to restart using Debian
for the nice UI and the phenomenon 1280x1024 screen resolution.

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Hi,

Adrian Hoe wrote:

> But I am not able to perform Remote Desktop Login on Debian Etch. The
> window shows up with X cursor but no login manager.

I don't have a solution for this, but have you ever tried NX
(http://www.nomachine.org)? It is a small and *very* fast X Server that
can be accessed by an NX client via SSH. You do not need a login screen
anymore, because you login on the client that establishes the connection
via a secure ssh connection. You can also use it with auth login. You
can configure the client start any window manager on the remote machine.
I use NX with fluxbox. And there is one big advantage of NX: speed.
Normal X forwarding is very slow. With NX, you won't see any difference
in speed between your local desktop and the remote desktop.

Caution: There is a package for the NX server in the Debian Etch
sources. *Don't* use this package for it is too old to work with the
newest client. Install *both* the server *and* the client from the
newest sources on http://www.nomachine.org.

Give it a try, I am sure you will love it.

Alex

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On May 13, 9:33 pm, Alexander Schestag <a...@schestag.info> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Adrian Hoe wrote: 
>
> I don't have a solution for this, but have you ever tried NX
> (http://www.nomachine.org)?It is a small and *very* fast X Server that
> can be accessed by an NX client via SSH. You do not need a login screen
> anymore, because you login on the client that establishes the connection
> via a secure ssh connection. You can also use it with auth login. You
> can configure the client start any window manager on the remote machine.
> I use NX with fluxbox. And there is one big advantage of NX: speed.
> Normal X forwarding is very slow. With NX, you won't see any difference
> in speed between your local desktop and the remote desktop.
>
> Caution: There is a package for the NX server in the Debian Etch
> sources. *Don't* use this package for it is too old to work with the
> newest client. Install *both* the server *and* the client from the
> newest sources onhttp://www.nomachine.org.
>
> Give it a try, I am sure you will love it.
>
> Alex



But I want to do Remote Login from Mac OS X to Debian Etch on a local
network. Speed is not a problem. Furthermore, according to
Nomachine.com download page, NX Server is available for Debian Woody
and Sarge. Etch is not mentioned.

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On 05/13/2007 08:00 AM, Adrian Hoe wrote:
> [...]
> But I am not able to perform Remote Desktop Login on Debian Etch. The
> window shows up with X cursor but no login manager. I am using KDM (I
> think, I dpkg-reconfigure gdm and/or dpkg-reconfigure kdm and select
> kdm; I have install kdm and kde). I have follow all the setup steps as
> in:
>
> http://adrianhoe.com/adrianhoe/2006...login-from-mac/
>
> What have I missed here? Please help. I wish to restart using Debian
> for the nice UI and the phenomenon 1280x1024 screen resolution.
>

GDM has a gdmsetup command that can enable XDMCP. Perhaps KDM has
something similar.

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Adrian Hoe wrote:
> On May 13, 9:33 pm, Alexander Schestag <a...@schestag.info> wrote: 
>
>

> But I want to do Remote Login from Mac OS X to Debian Etch on a local
> network.

There is a Mac OS X client.

> Speed is not a problem. Furthermore, according to
> Nomachine.com download page, NX Server is available for Debian Woody
> and Sarge. Etch is not mentioned.

I have it running on Etch. It works great.

This was just a suggestion. You don't have to follow it. :-)

Alex

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On May 14, 12:00 am, "Mumia W." <paduille.4061.mumia.w
+nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 05/13/2007 08:00 AM, Adrian Hoe wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
> GDM has a gdmsetup command that can enable XDMCP. Perhaps KDM has
> something similar.

I selected "KDM" when I did "dpkg-reconfigure gdm". The login does not
look like K but more like Gnome. But I have both gdm and kdm started
according to the boot log. Is this a problem?

Yes, I have enabled remote login in gdm setup. XDMCP is on.

The window with X cursor appeared on my Mac OS X but no login screen.
--
Adrian Hoe
http://adrianhoe.net

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On 05/13/2007 05:52 PM, Adrian Hoe wrote:
> On May 14, 12:00 am, "Mumia W." <paduille.4061.mumia.w
> +nos...@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>
> I selected "KDM" when I did "dpkg-reconfigure gdm". The login does not
> look like K but more like Gnome. But I have both gdm and kdm started
> according to the boot log. Is this a problem?
>

You only want one display manager running. Two would probably conflict.

> Yes, I have enabled remote login in gdm setup. XDMCP is on.
>
> The window with X cursor appeared on my Mac OS X but no login screen.

Take a look at the Xorg log on the Debian machine. It should be in
/var/log/Xorg.0.log (or any of /var/log/Xorg.*.log).

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On May 14, 1:30 pm, "Mumia W." <paduille.4061.mumia.w
+nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Take a look at the Xorg log on the Debian machine. It should be in
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or any of /var/log/Xorg.*.log).


Is there any particular stuff I should look at?

--
Adrian Hoe
http://adrianhoe.net

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On May 14, 12:58 am, Alexander Schestag <a...@schestag.info> wrote:
> Adrian Hoe wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> There is a Mac OS X client.
> 
>
> I have it running on Etch. It works great.
>
> This was just a suggestion. You don't have to follow it. :-)
>
> Alex


Yeah I know. Thanks for the info. I did not know such thing like NX
exists. I like to try out NX but it will be some hassle to install NX
to every boxes. After all, I have no problem with Solaris and other
linux boxes. I would rather have all my boxes to be the same way.
--
Adrian Hoe
http://adrianhoe.net

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On May 14, 4:44 pm, Adrian Hoe <aby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 1:30 pm, "Mumia W." <paduille.4061.mumia.w
>
> +nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>
> Is there any particular stuff I should look at?

You should look into /var/log/messages about kdm and gdm.
One will tell you that it starts, the other that it isn't started
becouse there is another X display manager started/selected.

IF you run kdm, it doesn't matter if you change any settings for gdm
(and vice vesa).
You could also try this command:
ps -A | grep '.dm'
There you should have one of kdm or gdm (one or more lines).

If you want to see of you will be abel to log in on X remote, you
could try:
nmap localhost
You should also try with your IP number or hostname to get what others
see on your machine.
This will tell if there is any X11 XDMCP running on your host.

Good luck

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