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mymail@hotmail.com


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07-11-07 12:11 AM



>Tax included (19%) : £3.82
>Total w/o tax:  £20.0
Just what does this unscrupulous useless company think they are doing
charging 19% VAT for their goods !not content with providing a
totally useless service it looks like now they have started to rip
customers of big time in other ways also .







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Graham


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07-11-07 12:11 AM


<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 news:68r79312vvuq4gojlp6ciafadc81d13sml@
4ax.com...
>
> 
> Just what does this unscrupulous useless company think they are doing
> charging 19% VAT for their goods !not content with providing a
> totally useless service it looks like now they have started to rip
> customers of big time in other ways also .

Perhaps because the German government requires them to Ron.
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R. Mark Clayton


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07-11-07 06:11 PM


<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 news:68r79312vvuq4gojlp6ciafadc81d13sml@
4ax.com...
>
> 
> Just what does this unscrupulous useless company think they are doing
> charging 19% VAT for their goods !not content with providing a
> totally useless service it looks like now they have started to rip
> customers of big time in other ways also .
>
>
They are probably in another EU country - Germany (19%), France (18.6%) etc.

If you are VAT registered then you can probably claim it back.







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Tim


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07-13-07 06:11 PM

R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>  news:68r79312vvuq4gojlp6ciafadc81d13sml@
4ax.com... 
> They are probably in another EU country - Germany (19%), France (18.6%) et
c.
>
> If you are VAT registered then you can probably claim it back.

If you were VAT registered in germany, then you could claim it back.

If you are VAT registered in another EEA state, then once you have
exchange VAT numbers with the supplier, then they shouldn't invoice the VAT.

Tim





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    Re: Sipgate  
Iain


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07-14-07 12:11 AM

mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> Just what does this unscrupulous useless company think they are doing
>  charging 19% VAT for their goods !

Perhaps they feel that it is appropriate to comply with the law? Why do
you think that is a bad idea?

> not content with providing a
> totally useless service

Rubbish. It is a perfectly useable service.

> it looks like now they have started to rip
> customers of big time in other ways also .

It looks like you have gone off your trolley again.

If you dislike them so much, how come you are using them? Why not switch
to Vonage, and find out what being ripped off is really like?


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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}


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07-14-07 12:11 AM

Graham wrote:
> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>  news:68r79312vvuq4gojlp6ciafadc81d13sml@
4ax.com... 
>
> Perhaps because the German government requires them to Ron.


Wonder if the fool would have complained last year when the VAT was
still 16%?


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Ivor Jones


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07-14-07 12:11 AM


"Iain" <no-one@hairydog.co.uk> wrote in message
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> mymail@hotmail.com wrote: 
>
> Perhaps they feel that it is appropriate to comply with the law? Why do
> you think that is a bad idea?
> 
>
> Rubbish. It is a perfectly useable service.
> 
>
> It looks like you have gone off your trolley again.

Was he ever on it..?
>
> If you dislike them so much, how come you are using them? Why not switch
> to Vonage, and find out what being ripped off is really like?

Ah, but he *isn't* using them..! He gave them up about 2 years ago after
the system went off for a couple of days due to a major failure (it *was*
in their early days of UK operation) and hasn't stopped railing about them
since.

Don't get him started on Vonage..!

Ivor







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    Re: Sipgate  
Paul Cupis


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07-14-07 12:11 PM

Tim wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> If you are VAT registered in another EEA state, then once you have
> exchange VAT numbers with the supplier, then they shouldn't invoice the VAT.[/vbco
l]

IIRC, they can still invoice the VAT if they want to, and you can claim
it back if you can be bothered.





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mymail@hotmail.com


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07-14-07 06:11 PM

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:57:02 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}
}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Graham wrote: 
>
>
>Wonder if the fool would have complained last year when the VAT was
>still 16%?

The only fools around here are the ones who subscribe to Sipgate .





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Lurch


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07-14-07 06:11 PM

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:45:58 GMT, mymail@hotmail.com mused:

>On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:57:02 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}
}}"
><bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>
>The only fools around here are the ones who subscribe to Sipgate .

Did you not have a Sipgate subscription?
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