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"PhilT" <newsnet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 23 Jun, 22:04, "News Reader" <n...@email.invalid> wrote: 
> 
>
> good example. Half an hour looking at ratings sites, help forums,
> reading a newspaper etc would make it crystal clear that these
> companies merit no further consideration whatsoever. That's all you
> need to know, they are shit. Don't go there.
> 
>
> and you think that would change if someone were to "step in and
> provide clarity".
>
> Dream on.
>
> This would be the sort of clarity the FSA provided in the mortgage and
> pension market, would it ?
> 
>
> I think you have a curious perspective that some 3rd party could
> actually be constructive and improve things.
>
> Its a market, like Ebay or a car boot sale. They lay out their wares
> and you choose.
>
> If you elect to buy a fairly complex product on the basis of what you
> read on the back of a bus then expect problems.
>
>
> Phil
>


Hi Phil,


I essentially agree with you.

On the point of the bus, I agree entirely, however, for those not so naive
or inclined, etc. and who would seek to make further enquiry, they should
not be met with frustration, mis-information, lack of information, etc. It
should be and be required to be openly, accurately, etc. presented.

Yes... I take welcomely, your point about third parties that are actually
able to do anything useful.

It is a sorry but true state of affairs that most third parties seem to be
very poor... very very ... poor. Often they seem either government or
independent / other intermediary or body, to be almost entirely useless or
worse than useless... I don't know that it can necessarily be said to be
true in the case of government bodies, but in the case of the other it often
seems like they see their organisation as existing solely to justify highly
paying their executives. The same may be said to some extent of some
government bodies / implementations as well.

However, some, both government and non-governmental, third parties / bodies
actually do do it well and right and do a fantastic and great job. They are
the extreme minority by and large it seems and are not necessarily
guaranteed to consistently or always do so (or do so so well), or
necessarily on a continuing / ongoing basis.

That said.... ERP rocks (enterprise resource planning)...

... and when everything eventually gets implemented (it goes without
saying - we mean here, implemented well and correctly) and tied together...
so that such systems are similarly used for enforcement, penalising,
correcting, etc. (on an automated basis)... their will be some very useful
and effective arse kicking's going on / being dished out which will ensure
poor practise cannot occur... it occurs once - correction warning; it occurs
twice - warning and penalty; third time - lock down... (every step has to be
verified, etc. ); their is no fourth time... they either improve back to
stage two or one and keep improving and being better than the rest ( / meet
a high standard) or they, suffering the penalty of tighter scrutiny and
tighter expectations (and ongoing for some considerable time), are shut down
if they do not (immediately) perform. Further explanations / details, etc.
available on request.


Best wishes,



News Reader

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