Debian Etch Gnome

Hi pan users,

I have seen Pan 0.119 and I don't like it.
Many options are missing and I wonder if I could
install another version. ( why not? )
Now looking at the website:
http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/
I see all version numbers and release dates which make
no sense to me at all.
There is version 0.14.2.91 stable!?
and version 0.129 Beta
So that makes the higher number the oldest I would say.
However looking at the older releases
http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/releases/
there is
0.10.0.90 from 2004
0.101 from 2006
0.11.0.90 from 2004 again??
0.111 from 2006
0.129 from 2007
0.13.2 from 2004

You get the picture.
Can someone explain to me what is wrong with me
or these people?
Which version should I try? I do want to be able to use
it off-line among other things.
Or should I go for another newsreader?
BTW I don't like Knode 0.10.4  either, it
is not very handy to find my own postings and
replies back. I cannot write something when Knode
cannot connect to my news provider and it start
to download messages again which should be in cache!
I am open for suggestions..

Edmund

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> 0.10.0.90 from 2004
> 0.101 from 2006
> 0.11.0.90 from 2004 again??
> 0.111 from 2006
> 0.129 from 2007
> 0.13.2 from 2004

Uhm.. You DO know how to count, don't you?

0.10.0.90 is less than 0.11.0.90, which is less than 0.13.2, which is less
than 0.101, which is less than 0.111, which is less than 0.129.

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:16:01 +0000, Edmund wrote:

> There is version 0.14.2.91 stable!?

Yes.  This is the only decent version there is.  Use this one.

> and version 0.129 Beta

Yes, and it sucks.

> So that makes the higher number the oldest I would say.

Umm, no.  The higher number is the newest.  Think of it this way...
Version (one hundred twenty nine) is newer than version (fourteen point
something).  See?

> Can someone explain to me what is wrong with me
> or these people?

See above.

> Which version should I try?

See above.



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On 09/12/2007 04:16 PM, Edmund wrote:
> Debian Etch Gnome
>
> Hi pan users,
>
> I have seen Pan 0.119 and I don't like it.
> Many options are missing and I wonder if I could
> install another version. [...]

It looks like you've figured out that Pan's version numbering is nuts :-)

Try 0.14.2, and if that doesn't suit you try 0.13.2. If neither one
suits you, try Thunderbird <http://www.mozilla.com/>. Thunderbird is a
fairly powerful newsreader--not as powerful and flexible as Pan used to
be, but it's far more stable and well-maintained.

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:56:02 -0500, Mumia W. wrote:

> Thunderbird is a fairly powerful newsreader

Completely agreed.

Provided, of course, that "fairly powerful" is understood to be read as
"annoyingly useless".

There is no newsreader which is a good email client, and no email client
which makes a good newsreader.

Although if you have to use an email client as a newsreader, Sylpheed will
make you slightly less eager to slash your own wrists and exsanguinate in
front of your keyboard while reading alt.os.linux.mandriva.

Slightly.

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:16:01 +0000, Edmund wrote:

> Debian Etch Gnome
>
> Hi pan users,

Thanks for replies guys, 0.14.2.91 looks
better, still not perfect but a lot better.



Edmund

>

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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:23:26 +0200, Edmund wrote:

> Thanks for replies guys, 0.14.2.91 looks better, still not perfect but a
> lot better.
>

From the Pan FAQ:
3.1. Where do I send feature requests?
Mail it to the pan-users mailing list, where other users can discuss
your request. Features are typically discussed there for some
consensus before being put into Pan.

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:56:30 -0500, Dan C wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:16:01 +0000, Edmund wrote:
> 
>
> Yes.  This is the only decent version there is.  Use this one.
>

After upgrading to Debian Etch, I too was saddened to lose some of the
features present in the version of Pan that was included in Debian Sarge
(pan 0.12.90).

However, given my lack of computer expertise (and my slow internet
connection), I am reluctant to mix official Debian-compiled packages
with packages that I have (attempted to) compile myself.

Is there a remedy - other than wait 2 years for the next stable Debian
release and hope that some of Pan's currently deleted features get
reinstated?

Felix Karpfen



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* Felix Karpfen wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:56:30 -0500, Dan C wrote:
 
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> After upgrading to Debian Etch, I too was saddened to lose some of the
> features present in the version of Pan that was included in Debian Sarge
> (pan 0.12.90).

you mean .129

> However, given my lack of computer expertise (and my slow internet
> connection), I am reluctant to mix official Debian-compiled packages
> with packages that I have (attempted to) compile myself.

There is surely a deb available of .14.X from the pan site.

> Is there a remedy - other than wait 2 years for the next stable Debian
> release and hope that some of Pan's currently deleted features get
> reinstated?

Above.

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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:08:10 +0000, SINNER wrote:
 
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> you mean .129

No, he meant 0.12.90, as he said.  That's apparently the (old) version of
Pan which came with (old) Debian Sarge.
 
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> There is surely a deb available of .14.X from the pan site.

Yes, there should be, and appears to be here at this link:
http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/
 
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> Above.

Yup.


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