I have a standalone SFTP server running Windows 2000. The server program I'm
using is freeSSHd. When I add the SFTP server as a back-up device it just
hangs up for 5 to 10 minutes and then comes back with "update failed" (no
details). While CCM was hanging I looked at the logs on freeSSHd and I could
see that I got logged in successfully and was granted the SFTP service. Any
ideas what might be happening?

Thanks,
Jason

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At the end of the day, you are a tragic victim of Cisco's short-sightedness.

Every Linux server on the planet has a native SFTP server built in, so
those environments and users think this is the coolest thing ever.

For most environments that are running Windows, SFTP is not supported,
so we are forced to use really crappy applications to replicate this
single feature.

The solution is a mass email, phone and scream campaign to Cisco
forcing them to support FTP for the backups.

Which they won't do, because they have caught the Linux religion and
they drank the kool-aid.



Jonathan

On Nov 23, 2007 4:39 PM, Jason Wydra <jasonwydra@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a standalone SFTP server running Windows 2000. The server program I
'm
> using is freeSSHd. When I add the SFTP server as a back-up device it just
> hangs up for 5 to 10 minutes and then comes back with "update failed" (no
> details). While CCM was hanging I looked at the logs on freeSSHd and I cou
ld
> see that I got logged in successfully and was granted the SFTP service. An
y
> ideas what might be happening?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
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Had the same problem but on CCM5 - I couldn't get freeSSHd to work
either.  Instead I used freeFTPd which includes freeSSHd and everything
started to work fine. Need to disable welcome banner and logging on
freeFTPd if the transfer speed is too slow.




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Consultant Technologies IP - Services Professionnels
Communications Convergentes et Solutions Mobiles
Bell Solutions T.I.C
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 novembre 2007 11:16
To: Jason Wydra
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Problem wth freeSSHd SFTP backups on CCM 6.0

At the end of the day, you are a tragic victim of Cisco's
short-sightedness.

Every Linux server on the planet has a native SFTP server built in, so
those environments and users think this is the coolest thing ever.

For most environments that are running Windows, SFTP is not supported,
so we are forced to use really crappy applications to replicate this
single feature.

The solution is a mass email, phone and scream campaign to Cisco
forcing them to support FTP for the backups.

Which they won't do, because they have caught the Linux religion and
they drank the kool-aid.



Jonathan

On Nov 23, 2007 4:39 PM, Jason Wydra <jasonwydra@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a standalone SFTP server running Windows 2000. The server
program I'm
> using is freeSSHd. When I add the SFTP server as a back-up device it
just
> hangs up for 5 to 10 minutes and then comes back with "update failed"
(no
> details). While CCM was hanging I looked at the logs on freeSSHd and I
could
> see that I got logged in successfully and was granted the SFTP
service. Any
> ideas what might be happening?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>  ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>

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OK, this is cool... but.

We need to get cisco to support FTP... I don't care if they splay out
a giant warning calling us security heretics, but cisco needs to
support this... backups are failing because there is not a reliable
backup solution for CallManager 5 or 6...

I just checked a customer I installed six months ago... there hasn't
been a backup done since August... why? Because it just stopped
working.

FTP is a reliable protocol and is universally supported...

How do we force Cisco's hand here?




Jonathan

On Nov 24, 2007 1:18 PM,  <jean-francois.guay@bell.ca> wrote:
> Had the same problem but on CCM5 - I couldn't get freeSSHd to work
> either.  Instead I used freeFTPd which includes freeSSHd and everything
> started to work fine. Need to disable welcome banner and logging on
> freeFTPd if the transfer speed is too slow.
>
>
>
>
>    Jean-Francois Guay, ing.
>   Consultant Technologies IP - Services Professionnels
>   Communications Convergentes et Solutions Mobiles
>   Bell Solutions T.I.C
>   ' 514-391-9698
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com]
> Sent: 24 novembre 2007 11:16
> To: Jason Wydra
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Problem wth freeSSHd SFTP backups on CCM 6.0
>
> At the end of the day, you are a tragic victim of Cisco's
> short-sightedness.
>
> Every Linux server on the planet has a native SFTP server built in, so
> those environments and users think this is the coolest thing ever.
>
> For most environments that are running Windows, SFTP is not supported,
> so we are forced to use really crappy applications to replicate this
> single feature.
>
> The solution is a mass email, phone and scream campaign to Cisco
> forcing them to support FTP for the backups.
>
> Which they won't do, because they have caught the Linux religion and
> they drank the kool-aid.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Nov 23, 2007 4:39 PM, Jason Wydra <jasonwydra@gmail.com> wrote: 
> program I'm 
> just 
> (no 
> could 
> service. Any 
>
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I wasted about 8 hours trying to get SFTP working with various server
software. I'm going to escalate with cisco because this is ridiculous!! If
my new 6.0 install crashes in the meantime, I'm going to demand cisco come
out and rebuild it from scratch.

On 11/24/07, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> At the end of the day, you are a tragic victim of Cisco's
> short-sightedness.
>
> Every Linux server on the planet has a native SFTP server built in, so
> those environments and users think this is the coolest thing ever.
>
> For most environments that are running Windows, SFTP is not supported,
> so we are forced to use really crappy applications to replicate this
> single feature.
>
> The solution is a mass email, phone and scream campaign to Cisco
> forcing them to support FTP for the backups.
>
> Which they won't do, because they have caught the Linux religion and
> they drank the kool-aid.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Nov 23, 2007 4:39 PM, Jason Wydra <jasonwydra@gmail.com> wrote: 
> I'm 
> just 
> (no 
> could 
> Any 
>

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Like Jonathan said, cisco should at least point us to a supported SFTP
server if they're so stuck on not giving us another option.

On 11/24/07, Jason Wydra <jasonwydra@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I wasted about 8 hours trying to get SFTP working with various server
> software. I'm going to escalate with cisco because this is ridiculous!! If
> my new 6.0 install crashes in the meantime, I'm going to demand cisco come
> out and rebuild it from scratch.
>
> On 11/24/07, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>

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Quoting Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com>:

>
> FTP is a reliable protocol and is universally supported...
>
> How do we force Cisco's hand here?
>

tell them that you'll huff and you'll puff and you'll blow their 53
billion dollar* company to the ground if they don't comply.


*52.4 billion in Canadian dollars

but seriously, if you find a way to force their hand, can you ask for
forwarding from secondary lines for me?

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I think the mistake was not being able to debug/log the SFTP session,
you have no method to troubleshoot -jason

 

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason Wydra
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:58 PM
To: Jonathan Charles
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Problem wth freeSSHd SFTP backups on CCM 6.0

 

 I wasted about 8 hours trying to get SFTP working with various server
software. I'm going to escalate with cisco because this is ridiculous!!
If my new 6.0 install crashes in the meantime, I'm going to demand Cisco
come out and rebuild it from scratch. 

On 11/24/07, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com> wrote: 

At the end of the day, you are a tragic victim of Cisco's
short-sightedness.

Every Linux server on the planet has a native SFTP server built in, so 
those environments and users think this is the coolest thing ever.

For most environments that are running Windows, SFTP is not supported,
so we are forced to use really crappy applications to replicate this
single feature.

The solution is a mass email, phone and scream campaign to Cisco
forcing themto support FTP for the backups.

Which they won't do, because they have caught the Linux religion and
they drank the kool-aid. 



Jonathan

On Nov 23, 2007 4:39 PM, Jason Wydra <jasonwydra@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a standalone SFTP server running Windows 2000. The server
program I'm 
> using is freeSSHd. When I add the SFTP server as a back-up device it
just
> hangs up for 5 to 10 minutes and then comes back with "update failed"
(no
> details). While CCM was hanging I looked at the logs on freeSSHd and I
could 
> see that I got logged in successfully and was granted the SFTP
service. Any
> ideas what might be happening?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>  ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip 
>

 




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Did you try RTMT to pull logs for the DRS?

Not sure they are there, but that would be the first place I would look.


Jonathan

On Nov 25, 2007 7:27 PM, Jason Aarons (US) <jason.aarons@us.didata.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I think the mistake was not being able to debug/log the SFTP session, you
> have no method to troubleshoot -jason
>
>
>
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason Wydra
>  Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:58 PM
>  To: Jonathan Charles
>
>  Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>  Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Problem wth freeSSHd SFTP backups on CCM 6.
0
>
>
>
>
>
>  I wasted about 8 hours trying to get SFTP working with various server
> software. I'm going to escalate with cisco because this is ridiculous!! If
> my new 6.0 install crashes in the meantime, I'm going to demand cisco come
> out and rebuild it from scratch.
>
>
> On 11/24/07, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> At the end of the day, you are a tragic victim of Cisco's short-sightednes
s.
>
>  Every Linux server on the planet has a native SFTP server built in, so
>  those environments and users think this is the coolest thing ever.
>
>  For most environments that are running Windows, SFTP is not supported,
>  so we are forced to use really crappy applications to replicate this
>  single feature.
>
>  The solution is a mass email, phone and scream campaign to Cisco
>  forcing them to support FTP for the backups.
>
>  Which they won't do, because they have caught the Linux religion and
>  they drank the kool-aid.
>
>
>
>  Jonathan
>
>  On Nov 23, 2007 4:39 PM, Jason Wydra <jasonwydra@gmail.com> wrote: 
> I'm 
> could 
> Any 
>
>
>
>
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