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Peter Gothager


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06-14-04 10:52 PM

Hi,

I'd like to get some feedback on the available rules services on 5.4 (BE). I
must create some custom discount functions for an already existing shop. The
discounts are pretty straight forward and shouldn't be too difficult to
implement I think..

The following is what I need to do:
Activation on discount:
- All discounts are acitvated by an ID (i.e. user must provide an ID to get
the discount)
- Start / end date
- Customer ERP number (1-n)
- Market (what market is the customer active) E.g. SE, GB, US etc

Type of discounts:
- Percentage on orderitem
- Percentage on orderitem if product A and B (and C and etc) is purchased

Using Blaze workbench, this shouldn't be very difficult right? I've looked
at it briefly and it doesn't seem so complicated. What worries me though is
the Accelerator customization.
Pretty soon we'll have to upgrade from 5.4.0.5 to 5.6.. What effect does
that have on the discount implementation that we are planning? Can we use
the code that we create in 5.4 in the 5.6 version?

Any other comments? I am glad for any input that you can provide as this is
new stuff for me..

Best regards
Peter








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    Re: Rule services (5.4) - blaze  
Robert Brown


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06-17-04 10:51 PM

I'm taken a little aback at your use of the word Blaze in the context of
discounts.  WC v5.4+ is very capable of handling discounts without the
need for the Blaze Rules Engine.

Maybe I'm having a hard time understanding how your customization does
not fit the existing discount functionality and why you aren't
considering merely overriding an implementation discount class.  The
requirements you listed are mostly out-of-the-box without BRE with
exception of Market and Customer ERP number...both of which can likely
be stored in custom fields within the default schema.

BRE is an advanced feature that can be used for more complex rules flow
well beyond simple discounting models and is mostly used for product
recommendations in addition to the Product Advisor component.  I'd
personally shy you away from using it for portability/migration reasons
as it is likely not going to be around forever.  Remember the commerce
personalization history trail, Blaze Advisor in NC/WCS v4, then on to
MacroMedia's Likeminds, now we have BRE, and WebSphere Personalization
is always in the picture now.

As an OOB example, why not setup Market segments as member groups
(MBRGRP table) and assign discounting behavior to these segments?
Customer ERP sounds like part of the user profile in USERREG.  Modify
the existing discount classes to check these custom fields for your
store's behavior.

R

Peter Gothager wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the available rules services on 5.4 (BE).
 I
> must create some custom discount functions for an already existing shop. T
he
> discounts are pretty straight forward and shouldn't be too difficult to
> implement I think..
>
> The following is what I need to do:
> Activation on discount:
> - All discounts are acitvated by an ID (i.e. user must provide an ID to ge
t
> the discount)
> - Start / end date
> - Customer ERP number (1-n)
> - Market (what market is the customer active) E.g. SE, GB, US etc
>
> Type of discounts:
> - Percentage on orderitem
> - Percentage on orderitem if product A and B (and C and etc) is purchased
>
> Using Blaze workbench, this shouldn't be very difficult right? I've looked
> at it briefly and it doesn't seem so complicated. What worries me though i
s
> the Accelerator customization.
> Pretty soon we'll have to upgrade from 5.4.0.5 to 5.6.. What effect does
> that have on the discount implementation that we are planning? Can we use
> the code that we create in 5.4 in the 5.6 version?
>
> Any other comments? I am glad for any input that you can provide as this i
s
> new stuff for me..
>
> Best regards
> Peter
>
>
>






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07-03-04 07:31 PM

Hi,
    It is interesting that you mentioned you will soon be migrating to v5.6.
  All the features you listed in your post are available out-of-the-box in v
5.6.  My recommendation at this moment is: don't waste your time customizing
 the system.  Migrate to V5.6 instead.


RL

quote:
Originally posted by Peter Gothager Hi, I'd like to get some feedback on the available rules services on 5.4 (BE). I must create some custom discount functions for an already existing shop. The discounts are pretty straight forward and shouldn't be too difficult to implement I think.. The following is what I need to do: Activation on discount: - All discounts are acitvated by an ID (i.e. user must provide an ID to get the discount) - Start / end date - Customer ERP number (1-n) - Market (what market is the customer active) E.g. SE, GB, US etc Type of discounts: - Percentage on orderitem - Percentage on orderitem if product A and B (and C and etc) is purchased Using Blaze workbench, this shouldn't be very difficult right? I've looked at it briefly and it doesn't seem so complicated. What worries me though is the Accelerator customization. Pretty soon we'll have to upgrade from 5.4.0.5 to 5.6.. What effect does that have on the discount implementation that we are planning? Can we use the code that we create in 5.4 in the 5.6 version? Any other comments? I am glad for any input that you can provide as this is new stuff for me.. Best regards Peter




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