Using BTS2004, without having HWS as an option, is it possible for BizTalk t
o send e-mail w/o using an orchestration?

Using the SDK's SendMail as an example.  If the Port's Address/MailTo is sta
tic and the Message's Subject is static, do I need to use an orchestration?

I have many .net solutions in this environment using System.Web.Mail.SMTPMai
l to generate e-mail after constructing the message and, sometimes, applying
 XSL Templates.

I'm looking into the benefits of establishing BTS2004 as our messaging servi
ce provider, but it is an environment w/ a tremondous amount of comfort in C
#.net and limited BTS2004 knowledge; so the primary benefit will come from c
ode-reduction and eliminati
on of points-of-failure.

If I'm able to setup a monitored folder(s) of *.xml documents, and I'm able 
to use a custom pipeline to apply an XSL Template, then this could be succes
sful; the C#'ers would only have to write the XML document to the proper loc
ation and maintain the XSLT
( I suppose I could even setup a WebService to handle the routing of the Xml
Document to the correct folder).  The C# code utilizing the SMTPMail class c
ould then be removed and we don't need to worry about nearly-all servers sen
ding e-mail.

But, if I have to use an orchestration, this is construed as "BizTalk code" 
and no more benefitial than using the SMTPMail class.

Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Chad
"C#-er", with just enough BTS2004 knowledge to be dangerous ;)

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There's a great webcast explaining this actually.

You may send outbound mail without using orchestration.

However, if your looking at biztalk to create your "mailserver" with it...
that's most probably not a good idea.  (Not only expensive but it's focus is
just not a mailings as a kind of "marketing engine", but rather on mailings
as a vehicle for data transport...)

Best regards,
Christof


"Chad Simons" <Chad Simons@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:55BC99E6-B811-495B-8C74-38B9372DC821@microsoft.com...
> Using BTS2004, without having HWS as an option, is it possible for BizTalk
to send e-mail w/o using an orchestration?
>
> Using the SDK's SendMail as an example.  If the Port's Address/MailTo is
static and the Message's Subject is static, do I need to use an
orchestration?
>
> I have many .net solutions in this environment using
System.Web.Mail.SMTPMail to generate e-mail after constructing the message
and, sometimes, applying XSL Templates.
>
> I'm looking into the benefits of establishing BTS2004 as our messaging
service provider, but it is an environment w/ a tremondous amount of comfort
in C#.net and limited BTS2004 knowledge; so the primary benefit will come
from code-reduction and elimination of points-of-failure.
>
> If I'm able to setup a monitored folder(s) of *.xml documents, and I'm
able to use a custom pipeline to apply an XSL Template, then this could be
successful; the C#'ers would only have to write the XML document to the
proper location and maintain the XSLT ( I suppose I could even setup a
WebService to handle the routing of the XmlDocument to the correct folder).
The C# code utilizing the SMTPMail class could then be removed and we don't
need to worry about nearly-all servers sending e-mail.
>
> But, if I have to use an orchestration, this is construed as "BizTalk
code" and no more benefitial than using the SMTPMail class.
>
> Any thoughts?
> Thanks,
> Chad
> "C#-er", with just enough BTS2004 knowledge to be dangerous ;)

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Hi

What would be the title of that webcast?

Thanks

Jan Eliasen

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:06:38 +0200, "Christof"
<bts2004communityfeedback (at) hotmail (dot) com> wrote:

>There's a great webcast explaining this actually.
>
>You may send outbound mail without using orchestration.
>
>However, if your looking at biztalk to create your "mailserver" with it...
>that's most probably not a good idea.  (Not only expensive but it's focus i
s
>just not a mailings as a kind of "marketing engine", but rather on mailings
>as a vehicle for data transport...)
>
>Best regards,
>Christof
>
>
>"Chad Simons" <Chad Simons@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:55BC99E6-B811-495B-8C74-38B9372DC821@microsoft.com... 
>to send e-mail w/o using an orchestration? 
>static and the Message's Subject is static, do I need to use an
>orchestration? 
>System.Web.Mail.SMTPMail to generate e-mail after constructing the message
>and, sometimes, applying XSL Templates. 
>service provider, but it is an environment w/ a tremondous amount of comfor
t
>in C#.net and limited BTS2004 knowledge; so the primary benefit will come
>from code-reduction and elimination of points-of-failure. 
>able to use a custom pipeline to apply an XSL Template, then this could be
>successful; the C#'ers would only have to write the XML document to the
>proper location and maintain the XSLT ( I suppose I could even setup a
>WebService to handle the routing of the XmlDocument to the correct folder).
>The C# code utilizing the SMTPMail class could then be removed and we don't
>need to worry about nearly-all servers sending e-mail. 
>code" and no more benefitial than using the SMTPMail class. 
>

--
Jan Eliasen, representing himself and not the company he works for.

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I'm sorry Jan, don't know this by hard...  Scott Woodgate presented a
webcast showing some fairly advanced mail stuff using multipart,
attachments, HTML, ...

(Could have been the infopath webcast as well... just a guess.)

Best regards,
Christof


"Jan Eliasen" <spam@eliasen.dk> wrote in message
 news:5bdid05vvr29ut4bvlmicv0ntnv2a65qme@
4ax.com...
> Hi
>
> What would be the title of that webcast?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jan Eliasen
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:06:38 +0200, "Christof"
> <bts2004communityfeedback (at) hotmail (dot) com> wrote:
> 
it...[vbcol=seagreen] 
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mailings[vbcol=seagreen] 
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is[vbcol=seagreen] 
message[vbcol=seagreen] 
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be[vbcol=seagreen] 
folder).[vbcol=seagreen] 
don't[vbcol=seagreen] 
>
> --
> Jan Eliasen, representing himself and not the company he works for.

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There was a WebCast of Scott's on 4/19 titled 'InfoPath SP1 and BizTalk Serv
er', but this used orchestrations extensively.  I looked as far back as earl
y February, but was not able to find any webcasts; perhaps I missed it.

At any rate, it looks like I've figured this out.  I'll create another posti
ng shortly that covers how to send e-mail without using an orchestration.

Thanks,
Chad

"Christof" wrote:

> I'm sorry Jan, don't know this by hard...  Scott Woodgate presented a
> webcast showing some fairly advanced mail stuff using multipart,
> attachments, HTML, ...
>
> (Could have been the infopath webcast as well... just a guess.)
>
> Best regards,
> Christof
>
>
> "Jan Eliasen" <spam@eliasen.dk> wrote in message
>  news:5bdid05vvr29ut4bvlmicv0ntnv2a65qme@
4ax.com... 
> it... 
> is 
> mailings 
> BizTalk 
> is 
> message 
> comfort 
> be 
> folder). 
> don't 
>
>
>

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1) Create and deploy custom send pipeline to apply XSLT.
2) Create a Receive Port (One-Way), using default configuration settings.
3) Add a Receive Location to the Port:
Transport Type: File
Address: (folder to monitor)
Receive Pipeline: DefaultPipelines.PassThruReceive
4) Create a Send Port:
(Primary Transport) Transport Type: SMTP
(Primary Transport) Address: STATIC receipient settings/Handler override
(Send) Send Pipeline: Custom Send Pipeline from step #1
(Filters & Maps) Filters: BTS.ReceivePortName == (receive Port created in st
ep #2).
This results in the send port subscribing to the receive port's messsages.



Notes: I set the DataSet's namespace to string.empty prior to writing the XM
LDocument to the monitored folder.


"Chad Simons" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> There was a WebCast of Scott's on 4/19 titled 'InfoPath SP1 and BizTalk Se
rver', but this used orchestrations extensively.  I looked as far back as ea
rly February, but was not able to find any webcasts; perhaps I missed it.
>
> At any rate, it looks like I've figured this out.  I'll create another pos
ting shortly that covers how to send e-mail without using an orchestration.
>
> Thanks,
> Chad
>
> "Christof" wrote:
> 

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