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    Receive Port Tracking  
Jeff Lynch


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06-30-04 01:44 AM

What is the difference between the various Receive Port "Tracking Type"
options set in the BizTalk Explorer ("Before Receive", "After Receive",
both)?

Example: Assuming that message body tracking has been configured in HAT, if
a Receive Location expects a flat-file (.txt) and the "Tracking Type" on the
Receive Port is set to "Before Receive" only, will the actual flat-file
message be persisted to the DB? If the "Tracking Type" is set to "After
Receive" only, will the parsed xml representation of the flat-file be
persisted to the DB? What if the Receive Port has an Inbound Map?

Jeff Lynch
"A BizTalk Enthusiast"







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    Re: Receive Port Tracking  
Matt Milner


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07-01-04 01:49 AM

You are right on track with your thoughts on the tracking.  You either get
the native or parsed in this case.  not sure on the map question but I
believe you will get the document as it was processed by the pipeline, but
before the maps are applied so you still get the document that was received
and not one you created.

Matt


"Jeff Lynch" <jeff.lynch@houston-lynch.com> wrote in message
news:O0e0l0jXEHA.1144@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> What is the difference between the various Receive Port "Tracking Type"
> options set in the BizTalk Explorer ("Before Receive", "After Receive",
> both)?
>
> Example: Assuming that message body tracking has been configured in HAT,
if
> a Receive Location expects a flat-file (.txt) and the "Tracking Type" on
the
> Receive Port is set to "Before Receive" only, will the actual flat-file
> message be persisted to the DB? If the "Tracking Type" is set to "After
> Receive" only, will the parsed xml representation of the flat-file be
> persisted to the DB? What if the Receive Port has an Inbound Map?
>
> Jeff Lynch
> "A BizTalk Enthusiast"
>
>







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    Re: Receive Port Tracking  
Jeff Lynch


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07-01-04 12:47 PM

Anyone from Microsoft care to comment on this? The documentation is unclear.

Jeff Lynch
"A BizTalk Enthusiast"


"Matt Milner" <matt.milner@m3technologypartners dot com> wrote in message
news:uu%23kbzwXEHA.1684@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You are right on track with your thoughts on the tracking.  You either get
> the native or parsed in this case.  not sure on the map question but I
> believe you will get the document as it was processed by the pipeline, but
> before the maps are applied so you still get the document that was
received
> and not one you created.
>
> Matt
>
>
> "Jeff Lynch" <jeff.lynch@houston-lynch.com> wrote in message
> news:O0e0l0jXEHA.1144@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... 
> if 
> the 
>
>







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    Re: Receive Port Tracking  
Sangram Mohapatra [MSFT]


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07-01-04 10:52 PM

Hi Jeff,

Case: 1:
If tracking on at receive port level and it is "Before Receive" then the
unparsed file [may be flat file, JPG or binary] will be saved on to disk
with the file name extension "out". You can use appropriate application to
open the file after changing the file extension.

Case: 2:
If tracking on at receive port level and it is "After Receive" then the
input message is already parsed by the pipeline and depending upon what
component you are using in the pipeline [e.g. if it is Passthrough then 
you
will get the same original message], the saved message will take that form.

Let me know if my explaination clarifies your doubt or not.

Thanks,
Sangram
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| Anyone from Microsoft care to comment on this? The documentation is
unclear.
|
| Jeff Lynch
| "A BizTalk Enthusiast"
|
|
| "Matt Milner" <matt.milner@m3technologypartners dot com> wrote in message
| news:uu%23kbzwXEHA.1684@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > You are right on track with your thoughts on the tracking.  You either
get
| > the native or parsed in this case.  not sure on the map question but I
| > believe you will get the document as it was processed by the pipeline,
but
| > before the maps are applied so you still get the document that was
| received
| > and not one you created.
| >
| > Matt
| >
| >
| > "Jeff Lynch" <jeff.lynch@houston-lynch.com> wrote in message
| > news:O0e0l0jXEHA.1144@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > > What is the difference between the various Receive Port "Tracking
Type"
| > > options set in the BizTalk Explorer ("Before Receive", "After
Receive",
| > > both)?
| > >
| > > Example: Assuming that message body tracking has been configured in
HAT,
| > if
| > > a Receive Location expects a flat-file (.txt) and the "Tracking Type"
on
| > the
| > > Receive Port is set to "Before Receive" only, will the actual
flat-file
| > > message be persisted to the DB? If the "Tracking Type" is set to
"After
| > > Receive" only, will the parsed xml representation of the flat-file be
| > > persisted to the DB? What if the Receive Port has an Inbound Map?
| > >
| > > Jeff Lynch
| > > "A BizTalk Enthusiast"
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
|






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    Re: Receive Port Tracking  
Jeff Lynch


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07-01-04 10:52 PM

Sangram,

Thanks for the response from MSFT. Does having an inbound map make any
difference to what is tracked?


--
Jeff Lynch
"A BizTalk Enthusiast"

"Sangram Mohapatra [MSFT]" <sangmo@online.microsoft.com> wrote in messag
e
news:haatu35XEHA.3120@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Case: 1:
> If tracking on at receive port level and it is "Before Receive" then the
> unparsed file [may be flat file, JPG or binary] will be saved on to di
sk
> with the file name extension "out". You can use appropriate application to
> open the file after changing the file extension.
>
> Case: 2:
> If tracking on at receive port level and it is "After Receive" then the
> input message is already parsed by the pipeline and depending upon what
> component you are using in the pipeline [e.g. if it is Passthrough then[/vbcol
]
you[vbcol=seagreen]
> will get the same original message], the saved message will take that
form.
>
> Let me know if my explaination clarifies your doubt or not.
>
> Thanks,
> Sangram
> --------------------
> | From: "Jeff Lynch" <jeff.lynch@houston-lynch.com>
> | References: <O0e0l0jXEHA.1144@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>
> <uu#kbzwXEHA.1684@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> | Subject: Re: Receive Port Tracking
> | Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 07:43:30 -0500
> | Lines: 41
> | X-Priority: 3
> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
> | Message-ID: <OLupEk2XEHA.648@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>
> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.biztalk.admin
> | NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.gulfcoastseal.com 65.212.192.66
> | Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
> | Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.biztalk.admin:1364
> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.biztalk.admin
> |
> | Anyone from Microsoft care to comment on this? The documentation is
> unclear.
> |
> | Jeff Lynch
> | "A BizTalk Enthusiast"
> |
> |
> | "Matt Milner" <matt.milner@m3technologypartners dot com> wrote in
message
> | news:uu%23kbzwXEHA.1684@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | > You are right on track with your thoughts on the tracking.  You either
> get
> | > the native or parsed in this case.  not sure on the map question but I
> | > believe you will get the document as it was processed by the pipeline,
> but
> | > before the maps are applied so you still get the document that was
> | received
> | > and not one you created.
> | >
> | > Matt
> | >
> | >
> | > "Jeff Lynch" <jeff.lynch@houston-lynch.com> wrote in message
> | > news:O0e0l0jXEHA.1144@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | > > What is the difference between the various Receive Port "Tracking
> Type"
> | > > options set in the BizTalk Explorer ("Before Receive", "After
> Receive",
> | > > both)?
> | > >
> | > > Example: Assuming that message body tracking has been configured in
> HAT,
> | > if
> | > > a Receive Location expects a flat-file (.txt) and the "Tracking
Type"
> on
> | > the
> | > > Receive Port is set to "Before Receive" only, will the actual
> flat-file
> | > > message be persisted to the DB? If the "Tracking Type" is set to
> "After
> | > > Receive" only, will the parsed xml representation of the flat-file
be
> | > > persisted to the DB? What if the Receive Port has an Inbound Map?
> | > >
> | > > Jeff Lynch
> | > > "A BizTalk Enthusiast"
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
> |
>







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