I find the newly introduced mechanism in FP1 of providing
WinForms base FE for managing Commerce Resources very
nice and functional as opposed to the BizDesk Modules
mechanism. (the FP1 SDK provides the FE Portion) 

I have written my own custom resources along the lines
specified by Commerce Server 2002 for intergrating custom
resources.

NOW... where can I find instructions on how to expose
these as Commerce Applications and Web Services at the
same time...??????

When writing the Web Service where do I pick up the site
name from ? Do I write my own IHTTPConfigurationHandler ?
OR Do I implement my own HTTPApplication Handler ? ..

I'd appreciate if someone from the FP1 Dev Team can
address these questions.

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You should write your configsection handler which reads the sitename from
web.config and use the SiteConfigReadOnly object to get the information
about your custom resource.  In the UI you can then pass in the web service
url and connect to your web  service.

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I find the newly introduced mechanism in FP1 of providing
WinForms base FE for managing Commerce Resources very
nice and functional as opposed to the BizDesk Modules
mechanism. (the FP1 SDK provides the FE Portion) 

I have written my own custom resources along the lines
specified by Commerce Server 2002 for intergrating custom
resources.

NOW... where can I find instructions on how to expose
these as Commerce Applications and Web Services at the
same time...??????

When writing the Web Service where do I pick up the site
name from ? Do I write my own IHTTPConfigurationHandler ?
OR Do I implement my own HTTPApplication Handler ? ..

I'd appreciate if someone from the FP1 Dev Team can
address these questions.


Thanks
Vinayak Tadas
Microsoft
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I'll try that and get back..

Second question --
I can create an authroization policy for the application=20
as part of this and get the web service to use that.=20
Would the Agent API exposed on the FE support my policy=20
files ? or Would something else need to be done for it ?

Thanks and Regards.

>-----Original Message-----
>You should write your configsection handler which reads=20
the sitename from=20
>web.config and use the SiteConfigReadOnly object to get=20
the information=20
>about your custom resource.  In the UI you can then pass=20
in the web service=20
>url and connect to your web  service.=20
>
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>I find the newly introduced mechanism in FP1 of=20
providing=20
>WinForms base FE for managing Commerce Resources very=20
>nice and functional as opposed to the BizDesk Modules=20
>mechanism. (the FP1 SDK provides the FE Portion) 
>
>I have written my own custom resources along the lines=20
>specified by Commerce Server 2002 for intergrating=20
custom=20
>resources.
>
>NOW... where can I find instructions on how to expose=20
>these as Commerce Applications and Web Services at the=20
>same time...??????
>
>When writing the Web Service where do I pick up the site=20
>name from ? Do I write my own=20
IHTTPConfigurationHandler ?=20
>OR Do I implement my own HTTPApplication Handler ? ..
>
>I'd appreciate if someone from the FP1 Dev Team can=20
>address these questions.
>
>
>Thanks
>Vinayak Tadas
>Microsoft
>http://blogs.msdn.com/vinayakt
>
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If this policy is for your custom application/resource then the commerce
server APIs will not understand and use it. You will have to write your own
authorization code to authorize users using your custom policy.
Basically the authorization policy consists of an application, operations
and tasks and there are APIs to perform access checks against the
authorization policy.

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I'll try that and get back..
Second question --
I can create an authroization policy for the application
as part of this and get the web service to use that.
Would the Agent API exposed on the FE support my policy
files ? or Would something else need to be done for it ?
Thanks and Regards.
>-----Original Message-----
>You should write your configsection handler which reads
the sitename from
>web.config and use the SiteConfigReadOnly object to get
the information
>about your custom resource.  In the UI you can then pass
in the web service
>url and connect to your web  service.
>
>--------------------
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>Sender: "Ravi Shankar" <shankar.nospam@hp.com>
>Subject: Exposing Custom Resources as Web Services for
FP1 style FE apps
>Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 03:45:59 -0700
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>
>I find the newly introduced mechanism in FP1 of
providing
>WinForms base FE for managing Commerce Resources very
>nice and functional as opposed to the BizDesk Modules
>mechanism. (the FP1 SDK provides the FE Portion) 
>
>I have written my own custom resources along the lines
>specified by Commerce Server 2002 for intergrating
custom
>resources.
>
>NOW... where can I find instructions on how to expose
>these as Commerce Applications and Web Services at the
>same time...??????
>
>When writing the Web Service where do I pick up the site
>name from ? Do I write my own
IHTTPConfigurationHandler ?
>OR Do I implement my own HTTPApplication Handler ? ..
>
>I'd appreciate if someone from the FP1 Dev Team can
>address these questions.
>
>
>Thanks
>Vinayak Tadas
>Microsoft
>http://blogs.msdn.com/vinayakt
>
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The policy would contain all that since I created it=20
using the "Authorization Manager" in Developer mode 

So the Agent API would check up OK against it, right ?

Regards.
>-----Original Message-----
>If this policy is for your custom application/resource=20
then the commerce=20
>server APIs will not understand and use it. You will=20
have to write your own=20
>authorization code to authorize users using your custom=20
policy.
>Basically the authorization policy consists of an=20
application, operations=20
>and tasks and there are APIs to perform access checks=20
against the=20
>authorization policy.
>=20
>--------------------
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>
>I'll try that and get back..
>Second question --
>I can create an authroization policy for the application=20
>as part of this and get the web service to use that.=20
>Would the Agent API exposed on the FE support my policy=20
>files ? or Would something else need to be done for it ?
>Thanks and Regards. 
>the sitename from=20 
>the information=20 
pass=20[vbcol=seagreen]
>in the web service=20 
>FP1 style FE apps 
>microsoft.public.commerceserver.general:14250 
>providing=20 
>custom=20 
site=20[vbcol=seagreen] 
>IHTTPConfigurationHandler ?=20 
and=20[vbcol=seagreen]
>confers no rights. 
>Corporation. All rights 
>specified at 
>http://www.microsoft.com/security.  Please 
>
>
>Thanks
>Vinayak Tadas
>Microsoft
>http://blogs.msdn.com/vinayakt
>
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Each resource (Catalogs, Campaigns) have and understand only their
authorization policy structures. An authorization policy has an application
which contains the operations and tasks in it. When accessing the
authorization policy the Application name has to be specified. Since you
are creating your own authorization ploicy for your custom resource the
Agent API cannot use it to perform authorizations since it does not
understand/interpret its contents.
In your post if you are talking about creating an authorization policy for
the catalog resource then yes the Agent API will check against it.
Bottomline is if you create your own custom resource and an authorization
policy for that resource then you will have to write your own authorization
logic.
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The policy would contain all that since I created it
using the "Authorization Manager" in Developer mode 
So the Agent API would check up OK against it, right ?
Regards.
>-----Original Message-----
>If this policy is for your custom application/resource
then the commerce
>server APIs will not understand and use it. You will
have to write your own
>authorization code to authorize users using your custom
policy.
>Basically the authorization policy consists of an
application, operations
>and tasks and there are APIs to perform access checks
against the
>authorization policy.
>
>--------------------
>Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
>From: "Ravi Shankar" <shankar.nospam@hp.com>
>Sender: "Ravi Shankar" <shankar.nospam@hp.com>
>References: <2c92c01c4698f$c00a3230$a501280a@phx.gbl>
><w0NDIycaEHA.2804@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
>Subject: RE: Exposing Custom Resources as Web Services
for FP1 style FE apps
>Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:43:42 -0700
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>
>I'll try that and get back..
>Second question --
>I can create an authroization policy for the application
>as part of this and get the web service to use that.
>Would the Agent API exposed on the FE support my policy
>files ? or Would something else need to be done for it ?
>Thanks and Regards. 
>the sitename from 
>the information 
pass[vbcol=seagreen]
>in the web service 
>FP1 style FE apps 
>microsoft.public.commerceserver.general:14250 
>providing 
>custom 
site[vbcol=seagreen] 
>IHTTPConfigurationHandler ? 
and[vbcol=seagreen]
>confers no rights. 
>Corporation. All rights 
>specified at 
>http://www.microsoft.com/security.  Please 
>
>
>Thanks
>Vinayak Tadas
>Microsoft
>http://blogs.msdn.com/vinayakt
>
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confers no rights.
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Thanks
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Ok. Clear. Thanks Vinayak.

>-----Original Message-----
>Each resource (Catalogs, Campaigns) have and understand=20
only their=20
>authorization policy structures. An authorization policy=20
has an application=20
>which contains the operations and tasks in it. When=20
accessing the=20
>authorization policy the Application name has to be=20
specified. Since you=20
>are creating your own authorization ploicy for your=20
custom resource the=20
>Agent API cannot use it to perform authorizations since=20
it does not=20
>understand/interpret its contents.=20
>In your post if you are talking about creating an=20
authorization policy for=20
>the catalog resource then yes the Agent API will check=20
against it.=20
>Bottomline is if you create your own custom resource and=20
an authorization=20
>policy for that resource then you will have to write=20
your own authorization=20
>logic.
>--------------------
>Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
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>Sender: "Ravi Shankar" <shankar.nospam@hp.com>
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><w0NDIycaEHA.2804@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>=20
><2d2a501c46a26$4dd80240$a401280a@phx.gbl>=20
><WhqwyfpaEHA.2752@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
>Subject: RE: Exposing Custom Resources as Web Services=20
for FP1 style FE apps
>Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:44:48 -0700
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>
>The policy would contain all that since I created it=20
>using the "Authorization Manager" in Developer mode 
>So the Agent API would check up OK against it, right ?
>Regards. 
>then the commerce=20 
>have to write your own=20 
>policy. 
>application, operations=20 
>against the=20 
>for FP1 style FE apps 
>microsoft.public.commerceserver.general:14255 
application=20[vbcol=seagreen] 
reads=20[vbcol=seagreen] 
get=20[vbcol=seagreen] 
>pass=20 
V5.50.4910.0300[vbcol=seagreen] 
>site=20 
>and=20 
terms=20[vbcol=seagreen] 
and=20[vbcol=seagreen]
>confers no rights. 
>Corporation. All rights 
>specified at 
>http://www.microsoft.com/security.  Please 
>
>
>Thanks
>Vinayak Tadas
>Microsoft
>http://blogs.msdn.com/vinayakt
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>You assume all risk for your use. =A9 2002 Microsoft=20
Corporation. All rights
>reserved.
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>reply to the newsgroups only.  Thanks
>

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