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08-08-04 10:05 PM

Please excuse this newbie question...but I really want to try Linux...and I 
need to know this before I order SuSE...

I can't get my computer to boot from the cd drive...I'm running the evil Win
XP, and I can't get my 'puter to play ball and boot from the cd rom..

Question: to set-up SuSE 9.1., does the computer have to boot from the insta
ll cd?...or can you install SuSE while running XP, then re-boot from the har
d drive and choose SuSE???

Help...

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08-09-04 01:53 AM

|Question: to set-up SuSE 9.1., does the computer have to boot from the
|install cd?...or can you install SuSE while running XP, then re-boot
|from the hard drive and choose SuSE???

You have to boot from the CD. There's also a floppy + network option but
fewer and fewer computers have floppies these days.
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08-09-04 01:53 AM

mr1508 wrote:

> Please excuse this newbie question...but I really want to try
> Linux...and I need to know this before I order SuSE...
>
> I can't get my computer to boot from the cd drive...I'm running the
> evil WinXP, and I can't get my 'puter to play ball and boot from the cd
> rom..
>
> Question: to set-up SuSE 9.1., does the computer have to boot from the
> install cd?...or can you install SuSE while running XP, then re-boot
> from the hard drive and choose SuSE???
>
> Help...
>

Have you checked your BIOS settings to make sure the CD-ROM is set up to
boot before the hard drive?

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08-09-04 01:53 AM

In <1hzRc.41347$K53.11325@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, bsrrys@pobosq.com:

[Snip...]

> You have to boot from the CD.

Not on SuSE 9.1; it has boot images and modules required for floppy boot
installs in the "boot" directory of the 1st CD. I know because it's what
I used to install 9.1 on IBM 300GL desktop; it's a silly proprietary IBM
BIOS that doesn't allow CDROM booting. Ergo, El Flopperino.

The README file has clear instructions on creating/using boot floppies:

wyrd@deuce:~> more /media/cdrom/boot/README
Creating SUSE LINUX 9.1 Boot Disks
==================================

Due to increasing kernel size, there are now three boot disks.

You can create the boot disks if you have access to a running Linux
box or a running DOS box.

etc....YMMV, HTH.

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08-09-04 01:53 AM

|[Snip...]
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|> You have to boot from the CD.
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|Not on SuSE 9.1; it has boot images and modules required for floppy boot

You snipped too much. This is what I actually said, in full:

|You have to boot from the CD. There's also a floppy + network option but
|fewer and fewer computers have floppies these days.

But you're right, I didn't include the floppy + CD option. Only if you
have no other option. In the OP's case I would doublecheck the BIOS
settings.
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08-09-04 04:18 AM

Hey...thanks for the help eveyone...if I understand correctly, the SuSe inst
all cd will walk me through setting up a floppy boot disk...I can boot from 
that, then finish the install from the cd's... right???

...and, yes...I went into my bios set-up, and changed the settings to boot 
from the cd drive...but no matter what I do ( disable the hard drive, etc) m
y computer will not boot from the cd drive, and Win Xp launches no matter wh
at I do...

...any suggestions on that would be appreciated, too!

Thanks...I look forward to trying Linux...

M.R.




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Harold Stevens


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08-09-04 07:51 AM

In <NKBRc.41535$K53.21661@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, jhwr@onblyf.com:

[Snip...]

> You snipped too much. This is what I actually said, in full:
>
>|You have to boot from the CD. There's also a floppy + network option but
>|fewer and fewer computers have floppies these days.

Just didn't want noobs to think the installer will boot ONLY from CDROM.

YMMV, HTH...

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08-09-04 01:05 PM

mr1508 wrote:
> Hey...thanks for the help eveyone...if I understand correctly, the SuSe
> install cd will walk me through setting up a floppy boot disk...I can
> boot from that, then finish the install from the cd's... right???

Yes. There are two or three floppies you will have to make.
>
> ...and, yes...I went into my bios set-up, and changed the settings to
> boot from the cd drive...but no matter what I do ( disable the hard
> drive, etc) my computer will not boot from the cd drive, and Win Xp
> launches no matter what I do...
>
> ...any suggestions on that would be appreciated, too!

Every bios is a bit different. I have the possibilaty to re-recognise my
Harddrives and so on. Perhaps that helps. To test REALLY turn off your
hard drives in  the BIOS. Yes, you will not able to install or run
anything. It is just to see if even then Wintendo wants to take over.
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08-09-04 01:05 PM

mr1508 adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos underwear to write:

> Hey...thanks for the help eveyone...if I understand correctly, the
> SuSe install cd will walk me through setting up a floppy boot disk...I
> can boot from that, then finish the install from the cd's... right???
>
> ...and, yes...I went into my bios set-up, and changed the settings to
> boot from the cd drive...but no matter what I do ( disable the hard
> drive, etc) my computer will not boot from the cd drive, and Win Xp
> launches no matter what I do...
>
> ...any suggestions on that would be appreciated, too!


What motherboard have you got or the make/model of computer, there used
to be a problem booting from cd if the drive was set as secondary slave
IIRC on older hardware, but if your machine is new`ish there should not
be any problem unless you have a dodgy bios or the CD-drive is very
old, dirty or failing also a bad cable or connection can cause similar
probs.

Can you read cd`s from the drive?

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    Re: Really dumb install question...  
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08-09-04 10:58 PM

On 9 Aug 2004 03:12:42 GMT, Harold Stevens <wookie@deuce.localdomain> wrote:

>Just didn't want noobs to think the installer will boot ONLY from CDROM.

Will it install from the hard drive?  Mandrake 8 would.  On one of my PC's
it was the only way to get it installed.






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