Question is this normal???  Got an email from AH with the following updated
TOS:

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Terms of Service section changes:


Before change: "We reserve the right to send announcements, invoices,
occassional renewal and promotional offers pertinent to your hosting account
and domain name with us. "



After change: "We reserve the right to send announcements, invoices,
occassional renewal and promotional offers pertinent to your hosting account
and domain name with us. You agree not to report these messages as spam to
spamcop or any other similar service. Doing so may be considered grounds for
termination of your account."

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So I guess my question is "We reserve the right to spam you, you can not opt
out and if you complain we can terminate you"
normal for a hosting account?

So my question is this... anyone know of a cheap webhost that will let you
opt out of everything but invoices?

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In article <shxWc.18432$_h.7700@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, Lurker wrote:
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> So my question is this... anyone know of a cheap webhost that will let you
> opt out of everything but invoices?
>
I do webhosting for reasonable rates, and I'm rabidly anti-spam :-)
Contact me privately if you'd like more details.

- --Russell

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Russell Miller wrote:
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> In article <shxWc.18432$_h.7700@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, Lurker wrote: 
> I do webhosting for reasonable rates, and I'm rabidly anti-spam :-)
> Contact me privately if you'd like more details.
>
> - --Russell
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WOW! You read this group to? LOL
Glad to see a fellow NANAE'r here....

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In article <d5udnUuJYvBYObfcRVn-tQ@comcast.com>, Viper wrote: 
> WOW! You read this group to? LOL
> Glad to see a fellow NANAE'r here....
>
Wha..?

- --Russell
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Le Mars, IA		- +1 712 546 5886
Official NANAE SPEWS Puppet extraordinaire
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"Lurker" <random@dev.nul> wrote in
news:shxWc.18432$_h.7700@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

> Question is this normal???  Got an email from AH with the following
> updated TOS:
>
> ---
> Terms of Service section changes:
>
>
> Before change: "We reserve the right to send announcements, invoices,
> occassional renewal and promotional offers pertinent to your hosting
> account and domain name with us. "
>
>
>
> After change: "We reserve the right to send announcements, invoices,
> occassional renewal and promotional offers pertinent to your hosting
> account and domain name with us. You agree not to report these
> messages as spam to spamcop or any other similar service. Doing so may
> be considered grounds for termination of your account."
>
> ---
>
> So I guess my question is "We reserve the right to spam you, you can
> not opt out and if you complain we can terminate you"
> normal for a hosting account?
>
> So my question is this... anyone know of a cheap webhost that will let
> you opt out of everything but invoices?

GoDaddy, I think. I just switched over a few hobby hosting accounts, and
aside from bobbles from the losing registrar (where they were not already
at GoDaddy), all went very well. I'm quite happy, and the sites are very
snappy. I haven't had them long enough to tell if they would send spam, but
I really doubt it. If I did get one, I'd look at my settings first.

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"Lurker" <random@dev.nul> wrote in
news:shxWc.18432$_h.7700@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

> Question is this normal???  Got an email from AH with the following
> updated TOS:
>
> ---
> Terms of Service section changes:
>
>
> Before change: "We reserve the right to send announcements, invoices,
> occassional renewal and promotional offers pertinent to your hosting
> account and domain name with us. "
>
>
>
> After change: "We reserve the right to send announcements, invoices,
> occassional renewal and promotional offers pertinent to your hosting
> account and domain name with us. You agree not to report these
> messages as spam to spamcop or any other similar service. Doing so may
> be considered grounds for termination of your account."
>
> ---
>
> So I guess my question is "We reserve the right to spam you, you can
> not opt out and if you complain we can terminate you"
> normal for a hosting account?
>
> So my question is this... anyone know of a cheap webhost that will let
> you opt out of everything but invoices?

<Shrug> What's the big deal ? It's promotional material from your own host, 
so you'd be
getting - what, maybe 5 messages a month, max from them, including your invo
ice ?

Besides, if they sent too many of these 'internal' types of promotional mess
ages, there'd
be enough complaints from their users to force them to tone it down.



--
Marc Bissonnette
CGI / Database / Web Management Tools: http://www.internalysis.com
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com

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Russell Miller wrote:
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> In article <d5udnUuJYvBYObfcRVn-tQ@comcast.com>, Viper wrote: 
> Wha..?
>
> - --Russell

Nm duh I didnt notice he posted to alt.www.webmaster and
news.admin.net-abuse.email
Just ignore my reply :P

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"Marc Bissonnette" <dragnet@internalysis.com> wrote in message
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> "Lurker" <random@dev.nul> wrote in
> news:shxWc.18432$_h.7700@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
> 
>
> <Shrug> What's the big deal ? It's promotional material from your own
host, so you'd be
> getting - what, maybe 5 messages a month, max from them, including your
invoice ?
>
> Besides, if they sent too many of these 'internal' types of promotional
messages, there'd
> be enough complaints from their users to force them to tone it down.


Its a "renew early and get 3 free months"...and we send it out approximately
every other month.  We generally run it after we start getting requests from
customers asking "When are you going to run the next 3 free months
promo?!?".

If you want to host with us, you agree to our terms.  If you don't like it,
don't sign up with us...we won't go bankrupt, that's for sure.  ;-)

--Tina

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Tina - AffordableHOST, Inc. wrote:
>
>
> Its a "renew early and get 3 free months"...and we send it out
> approximately every other month.  We generally run it after we start
> getting requests from customers asking "When are you going to run the
> next 3 free months promo?!?".

Well why in the hell don't you just send the promo to the ones who ASK for
it? Or put it on your web page? Or hire a skywriter?

>
> If you want to host with us, you agree to our terms.  If you don't
> like it, don't sign up with us...we won't go bankrupt, that's for
> sure.  ;-)
>
> --Tina

What a piss-poor attitude.

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JerryMouse wrote:
> Tina - AffordableHOST, Inc. wrote: 
>
> Well why in the hell don't you just send the promo to the ones who
> ASK for it? Or put it on your web page? Or hire a skywriter?
> 
>
> What a piss-poor attitude.

She treats AWW as her own advertising space. There for a while she treated
it as a support place to.

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