I have deployed a tracking profile and am noticing an unexpected behavior.

I have a send message that only executes within a certain decision path in
an orchestration.  The Decision path is not being executed within the
orchestration.  The HAT orchestration debugger verifies that the shape is
never executed.

My tracking profile for this orchestration has a send shape tied to an
activity that is within this decision path.  I would expect that the RTA
tables and the BAM PrimaryImport tables for this activity would not receive
event definitions as the event does not occur.  Unfortunately the tables hav
e
entires and the Count Measures are rolling out to the BAM workbook.

A..Is this expected behavior?
B...If it is expected, what methods do I have available that will allow me
to only capture "real" instances of the execution of the shape using BAM?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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Hi Eric,

Shapes are mapped to milestones. So can you please check if the milestone co
lumn that you mapped the send shape is
not populated in the bam_<Activity Name>_PrimaryImport table? If it is, the 
send event is indeed fired. If not, it means that
you have other mappings that trigger a record to be inserted in the table. C
heck which columns are not null to trace back to
exactly which events were fired.

Regards,
Derek [MSFT]

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>I have deployed a tracking profile and am noticing an unexpected behavior.
>
>I have a send message that only executes within a certain decision path in
>an orchestration.  The Decision path is not being executed within the
>orchestration.  The HAT orchestration debugger verifies that the shape is
>never executed.
>
>My tracking profile for this orchestration has a send shape tied to an
>activity that is within this decision path.  I would expect that the RTA
>tables and the BAM PrimaryImport tables for this activity would not receive
>event definitions as the event does not occur.  Unfortunately the tables ha
ve
>entires and the Count Measures are rolling out to the BAM workbook.
>
>A..Is this expected behavior?
>B...If it is expected, what methods do I have available that will allow me
>to only capture "real" instances of the execution of the shape using BAM?
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>


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Derek,

I'm not quite sure which table you are refeering to. There are 7 tables for
each of the activities in the PrimaryImportDatabase:

 bam_DMSTimeout_ViewTimeout_ActiveInstanc
esSnapshot
bam_DMSTimeout_DMSTimeout_RTA_RTATable
bam_DMSTimeout_Continuations
bam_DMSTimeout_CompletedRelationships
bam_DMSTimeout_Completed
bam_DMSTimeout_ActiveRelationships
bam_DMSTimeout_Active

The RTA table has entries with null values in the TimeTable Dimensions for
the activity and non-null values for Partition, Timeslice, and count

The bam_DMSTimeout_Completed table has values for RecordID and ActivityID
but a null values (in all records) for 'Timeout'.  Is this the table you are
referring to?

If the event is getting fired, why would there be an entry in the completed
table with a <null> value for 'Timeout'?

-eric

"Derek Tan [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Shapes are mapped to milestones. So can you please check if the milestone 
column that you mapped the send shape is
> not populated in the bam_<Activity Name>_PrimaryImport table? If it is, th
e send event is indeed fired. If not, it means that
> you have other mappings that trigger a record to be inserted in the table.
 Check which columns are not null to trace back to
> exactly which events were fired.
>
> Regards,
> Derek [MSFT]
>
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Hi Eric,

I beg your pardon. I got a little confused between the stored procedure name
s and table names. I meant to refer to the
bam_DMSTimeout_Completed and bam_DMSTimeout_Active tables.

I assume that you are mapping the send shape to the "Timeout" milestone. Ple
ase let me know if this is not correct.

Since there are records in the bam_DMSTimeout_Completed table but null value
 for the "Timeout" datetime column, it
means that there are mappings (other than the send shape) that causes events
 to be fired to the BAM infrastructure. Please
double check how you are mapping the activity with the orchestration shapes 
and schema. If you're still stuck, please
attach a screenshot showing the mappings in the Tracking Profile Editor.

Regards,
Derek [MSFT]

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>Derek,
>
>I'm not quite sure which table you are refeering to. There are 7 tables for
>each of the activities in the PrimaryImportDatabase:
>
> bam_DMSTimeout_ViewTimeout_ActiveInstanc
esSnapshot
>bam_DMSTimeout_DMSTimeout_RTA_RTATable
>bam_DMSTimeout_Continuations
>bam_DMSTimeout_CompletedRelationships
>bam_DMSTimeout_Completed
>bam_DMSTimeout_ActiveRelationships
>bam_DMSTimeout_Active
>
>The RTA table has entries with null values in the TimeTable Dimensions for
>the activity and non-null values for Partition, Timeslice, and count
>
>The bam_DMSTimeout_Completed table has values for RecordID and ActivityID
>but a null values (in all records) for 'Timeout'.  Is this the table you ar
e
>referring to?
>
>If the event is getting fired, why would there be an entry in the completed
>table with a <null> value for 'Timeout'?
>
>-eric
>
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