Hi firends,

I'm new to Debian/Knoppix (Redhatian previously), I have installed
Synaptic on my machines for package managment.

I think Synaptic uses dpkg and dselect in the background.

Do I still need apt-get? or can I erase apt-get altogether? or what
exrta packages do you think, can be removed harmlessly from a standard
Knoppix 3.3 installed on hard disks?

Thanks,
Regards,

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Dr Balwinder Singh Dheeman wrote:

> Hi firends,
>
> I'm new to Debian/Knoppix (Redhatian previously), I have installed
> Synaptic on my machines for package managment.
>
> I think Synaptic uses dpkg and dselect in the background.
>
> Do I still need apt-get? or can I erase apt-get altogether? or what
> exrta packages do you think, can be removed harmlessly from a standard
> Knoppix 3.3 installed on hard disks?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards,
>

No, don't get rid of apt-get.  Synaptic acts as a front end to apt-get.  It
would be more "harmless" to get rid of Open Office or KDE, using apt-get of
course.  I suggest browsing through your application menu for things you
don't think you'll need, then go find them in Synaptic and try removing
them.  Most often you'll get a list of other things that will also be
removed and you'll soon decide that removing things isn't as good an idea
as you first thought.

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Dr Balwinder Singh Dheeman wrote:

> Hi firends,
>
> I'm new to Debian/Knoppix (Redhatian previously), I have installed
> Synaptic on my machines for package managment.
>
> I think Synaptic uses dpkg and dselect in the background.
>

I do not use synaptic but I found the following through Google :

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/synaptic.html

It seems to indicate that synaptic requires apt for its backend processing.

So, do not remove apt-get 

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On 2004-09-09, Jim Bowering <iambat@otvcablelandot.net> wrote:
> Dr Balwinder Singh Dheeman wrote: 

Under no circumstances should you "just erase" a file that belongs to a
package.  That defeats the purpose of having a package-management system.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> No, don't get rid of apt-get.  Synaptic acts as a front end to apt-get.

I don't use synaptic, but observe:

$ /usr/bin/dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-get
apt: /usr/bin/apt-get

So the proper way to get rid of apt-get is to remove the apt package.
But then I wouldn't be able to install synaptic:

$ /usr/bin/apt-get --simulate install synaptic apt-
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
synaptic: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3
E: Broken packages

That is, synaptic depends on some (horribly named) library provided by the
apt package.  (Probably it does not use the apt-get program itself.)

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Paul Kimoto wrote:
> On 2004-09-09, Jim Bowering <iambat@otvcablelandot.net> wrote:
> 
>
>
> Under no circumstances should you "just erase" a file that belongs to a
> package.  That defeats the purpose of having a package-management system.

I'm sorry, I should have said prune and, or uninstall apt and, or apt-get.
 
>
>
> I don't use synaptic, but observe:
>
> $ /usr/bin/dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-get
> apt: /usr/bin/apt-get
>
> So the proper way to get rid of apt-get is to remove the apt package.
> But then I wouldn't be able to install synaptic:
>
> $ /usr/bin/apt-get --simulate install synaptic apt-
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   synaptic: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3
> E: Broken packages
>
> That is, synaptic depends on some (horribly named) library provided by the
> apt package.  (Probably it does not use the apt-get program itself.)

That's a valuable reply, thaks a lot!

Disk space, you know is not all that matters, but just wanted to
eliminate it for maintaining a clean system; nothing should be there
which don't use on a day-to-day basis.

I have installed apt-doc, dpkg-doc and maint-guide; will go through it.

Thanks,
//bsd

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