Hi,
I am looking for feasibilty of following scenario using Infopath, sharepoint
, HWS
1. User1 submits an infopath form to Sharepoint server
2. This should trigger start the workflow.
3. Workflow sends an email to User2 stating the link of the submitted docume
nt
4. User2  checks email(link) and updates the document status to be sent to
User3.
5. The workflow gets the latest link to the doc and sends to User3.
6. User 3 opens the email and updates the final status of the document and
trigers end of workflow.

What are my options of implementing such requirement?
As i understand i can store the document in the sharepoint document library
and use HWS for the workflow. But am not sure of how to trigger the HWS from
the sharepoint w/o removing the document from sharepoint.( the sahrepoint
adapter removes the doc).
I dont want to use an infopath form as that woul;d be another user
interface. I want to use the exisiting upload document ,mechanism provided b
y
Sharepoint services. Sharepoint is totally new for me.
Can i invoke HWS when i do a "Save & Close " for a document????

Any suggestion would be very useful

Thanks

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The InfoPath form make this easiest as it is a natural client for biztlak.
The SP1 version even has the capability to build an HWS taskpane for you
giving you the commands you need to use the HWS web service and use the HTTP
post to send the document.

If you want to use sharepoint alone, then you can write an event handler for
your sharepoint library and in the handler call out to HWS on your own using
a proxy to the web service.  Then you'd post the document into the system
manually.

Out of curiosity, if you are not using InfoPath to edit these XML documents,
what are your users going to use to edit the XML?
If you are using InfoPath, then I'm confused by your statement about not
wanting to use it as another user interface?  FYI, InfoPath can submit a
form to a sharepoint site, but it can also call web services to submit the
document. If you use SP1 of InfoPath, you can use rules and submit to
multiple places.

matt


"Paritosh Mhaisekar" <ParitoshMhaisekar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:3C3DC6E8-4F38-4143-82BA-67875836C043@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> I am looking for feasibilty of following scenario using Infopath,
> sharepoint
> , HWS
> 1. User1 submits an infopath form to Sharepoint server
> 2. This should trigger start the workflow.
> 3. Workflow sends an email to User2 stating the link of the submitted
> document
> 4. User2  checks email(link) and updates the document status to be sent to
> User3.
> 5. The workflow gets the latest link to the doc and sends to User3.
> 6. User 3 opens the email and updates the final status of the document and
> trigers end of workflow.
>
> What are my options of implementing such requirement?
> As i understand i can store the document in the sharepoint document
> library
> and use HWS for the workflow. But am not sure of how to trigger the HWS
> from
> the sharepoint w/o removing the document from sharepoint.( the sahrepoint
> adapter removes the doc).
> I dont want to use an infopath form as that woul;d be another user
> interface. I want to use the exisiting upload document ,mechanism provided
> by
> Sharepoint services. Sharepoint is totally new for me.
> Can i invoke HWS when i do a "Save & Close " for a document????
>
> Any suggestion would be very useful
>
> Thanks

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Thanks Matt.
I got the Sharepoint event handling through which i could intiate the HWS.
The reason i siad about a new UI for infopath was cos i was unaware that u
could publish a infopath form inside sharepoint and then use that form. i ha
d
an eisiting document library which i wanted to use for the workflow hence th
e
aversion to infopath. but now i see infopath makes it much easier than to
code for the sharepoint site.
One dilema am facing is in terms of defining the actions for HWS. This may
sound bit of a trivial question but am still groping with HWS. How do i
decide an action?  In a multistage approval workflow which involves AND and
OR conditions how do i decide how amny actions i should have?
any suggestions would be helpful
thanks a lot.
-Paritosh
"Matt Milner" wrote:

> The InfoPath form make this easiest as it is a natural client for biztlak.
> The SP1 version even has the capability to build an HWS taskpane for you
> giving you the commands you need to use the HWS web service and use the HT
TP
> post to send the document.
>
> If you want to use sharepoint alone, then you can write an event handler f
or
> your sharepoint library and in the handler call out to HWS on your own usi
ng
> a proxy to the web service.  Then you'd post the document into the system
> manually.
>
> Out of curiosity, if you are not using InfoPath to edit these XML document
s,
> what are your users going to use to edit the XML?
> If you are using InfoPath, then I'm confused by your statement about not
> wanting to use it as another user interface?  FYI, InfoPath can submit a
> form to a sharepoint site, but it can also call web services to submit the
> document. If you use SP1 of InfoPath, you can use rules and submit to
> multiple places.
>
> matt
>
>
> "Paritosh Mhaisekar" <ParitoshMhaisekar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote i
n
> message news:3C3DC6E8-4F38-4143-82BA-67875836C043@microsoft.com... 
>
>
>

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I'd say the first place to look would be this great article by Chris from
Microsoft.  He is guru on HWS and has some good tips:

[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/10/HumanWorkflowServices/default.aspx[
/url]

Other than that, I'd say make your actions as generic and broad as possible
when you can so they are reusable or widely usable; but know that you'll
need to make some more specific actions when your application calls for it.

Matt


"Paritosh Mhaisekar" <ParitoshMhaisekar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:23EA119C-198D-40EF-B606-711F53AC0D1B@microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks Matt.
> I got the Sharepoint event handling through which i could intiate the HWS.
> The reason i siad about a new UI for infopath was cos i was unaware that u
> could publish a infopath form inside sharepoint and then use that form. i
> had
> an eisiting document library which i wanted to use for the workflow hence
> the
> aversion to infopath. but now i see infopath makes it much easier than to
> code for the sharepoint site.
> One dilema am facing is in terms of defining the actions for HWS. This may
> sound bit of a trivial question but am still groping with HWS. How do i
> decide an action?  In a multistage approval workflow which involves AND
> and
> OR conditions how do i decide how amny actions i should have?
> any suggestions would be helpful
> thanks a lot.
> -Paritosh
> "Matt Milner" wrote:
> 

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